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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020

      Like... it's not a fair game you're intended to be able to win The challenge of living a good life is not a good faith challenge, with rules and a referee so that it's doable if you work hard and don't cheat and figure out the correct solution It is completely not that

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    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020

      When I was a teen I was really into Christian apologetics, which is largely based on just refusing to think certain thoughts because they hurt A lot of it was this argument from perversity, what @AlexandraErin calls the Shirley Principle "Oh, no, surely not"

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    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020

      A big argument for the existence of God is this circular thing about the argument from desire or argument from need The idea that if human beings desire something, like a relationship with their Creator, such a thing must therefore exist and be possible

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    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020

      That it would be perverse, cruel, just WRONG to give people a desire for something that doesn't exist and therefore can never be fulfilled Well, why the fuck not? The only reason to believe such a thing is impossible is believing in God in the first place

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    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020

      It is, in principle, trivially easy to imagine a desire for something that doesn't exist and can't be satisfied - a desire for a three-sided square, a desire to be simultaneously hot and cold, a desire for the comfort of being loved without the terror of being known

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    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020

      You could easily program a robot that wants there to be a three-sided square and spends eons trying to stick three 90-degree angles together and never actually succeeds and therefore is always unhappy and always will be unhappy It sounds more like the human condition than not

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020

      So I mean this family discourse "It's built into the way human development works: we all start as helpless babies, we need some adult or group of adults to have absolute power over is to survive, and those adults will have a profound effect on our psyche" Okay and that's bad

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    8. Green Being‏ @GreenBeing6 15 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect

      This isn't a good argument. "That's bad" isn't a coherent thing to say if you are starting from the "Its all meaningless" stance you took in the first tweet. You don't get to handwave away everyone else's intuited sentiments and keep your own.

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 15 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GreenBeing6

      I'm not *making* the argument here, I'm just stating that that's what I already believe and why I find people's intuitions that it can't be true so easy to dismiss

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    10. Green Being‏ @GreenBeing6 15 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect

      "and that's bad". What does "bad" mean there. I know this argument is preempting a criticism of a position you are taking in a related debate, not the meat of the main argument itself. You are still going to have to make "bad" coherent thing to say we shouldn't make families.

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 15 Dec 2020
      Replying to @GreenBeing6

      My moral system is that to do so inflicts unjustifiable suffering, and the fact that this suffering is ubiquitous and normalized only makes it more immoral

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        2. Green Being‏ @GreenBeing6 15 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect

          Immoral in reference to what? If you want to throw out those other ungrounded intuitions about the value of life you have to give grounding for your own. Unjustified implies there is a theoretical just version of suffering, what makes your idea of the just version correct?

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 15 Dec 2020
          Replying to @GreenBeing6

          Honestly I don't think any suffering is actually justified, I only use that term in the relative sense

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