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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Sam Haft‏ @SamHaft 14 Dec 2020

      Sam Haft Retweeted Noah Berlatsky

      oppressing my son by making him mac and cheese tonighthttps://twitter.com/nberlat/status/1338586940157927427 …

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      Noah BerlatskyVerified account @nberlat
      parents are tyrants. "parent" is an oppressive class, like rich people or white people.
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    2. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SamHaft

      It's a pretty straightforward take—parents have absolute power over their children and having absolute power over another human being is a priori oppressive. It's not even hot unless you think this would be the ideal model of existence even if there could be any other way.

      1 reply 1 retweet 47 likes
    3. Sam Haft‏ @SamHaft 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy

      Yeah it's one of those silicon valley "professional clever person" takes where they're like "we should aggregate knowledge in a free at point of access location" and people are like "yes. You're describing libraries." He's saying "water is wet" in the form of a hot take.

      4 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SamHaft

      Well, it's an outgrowth of one of his hobbyhorses, which is that children are a marginalized group and should be viewed as such through an intersectional lens (cf. the elderly), which is an idea leftists are typically unusually reticent to entertain

      1 reply 1 retweet 23 likes
    5. Sam Haft‏ @SamHaft 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy

      Is that the case? I feel like child welfare legislation has always come from left / labor movements generally speaking - except in such cases as reactionary moral panic laws, which are never really *about* kids in the first place so much as using them as a rhetorical pawn.

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    6. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SamHaft

      Well, you start to see the cracks appear when people start talking about things like lowering the voting age or allowing children informed consent re: healthcare A lot of leftists think that sort of thing is garbage

      3 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

      Well okay let's Go There I don't think infants being routinely taken away from their biological parents and raised in state-run collective creches is likely to happen in the near future, and can see how any near term implementation of it is likely to be disastrous

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    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

      But I can see how a utopian future might have that as one of its core institutions and, in many ways, I think if we're serious about solving basic social problems it might be impossible to do so any other way But you can't even propose this without massive backlash

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

      The number of "leftists" even in radical spaces nowadays who will sign on to this vision of the future is tiny It's absolutely ingrained that this is a dystopian future, one of the worst things you can imagine the government doing, anti-human and anti-moral

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

      And yet it IS a foundational Marxist concept Engels didn't believe you could challenge the logic of kings, churches, landlords and bosses without challenging the logic of families and I believe his argument is sound It's just always a step too far for most people

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        2. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

          There ARE other considerations in play, though it varies from situation to situation. Mostly, marginalized groups tend to look real negatively on it because it will inevitably involve their annihilation.

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
        3. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and

          Like in practice a state run creche is not only just transposing the authority of the family to the State, it's going to inevitably annihilate all marginalized cultures other than the mainstream since so many traditional rituals & practices that transfer culture become impossible

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        1. Allegedly Suspended Joel‏ @JoelSuspended 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

          I dunno how much- if any - of this I agree with, but it is a FASCINATING conversation- I love all of you!

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        2. unfortunate 🔰 🏴 (he/him)‏ @ExLegeLibertas 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

          Probably because there's a disconnect in the discussion between 'We're talking about tomorrow/revolutionary work' and 'we're talking about an idyllic future society.' I buy the children's creche thing (helloooo, SMAC) for the far future, but not for today, not from the state.

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @ExLegeLibertas @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

          Well sure But the same thing applies to stuff like "abolish private property, abolish landlords" "...So you want everyone in the country's landlord to be Donald Trump"

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        2. Avram Grumer  👓‏ @avram 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

          Though, according to conservatives, we’ve already challenged the logic of families. We have professional-class women working outside the home, same-sex marriage, interracial marriage, wives allowed to own property in their own names, acknowledgement that marital rape exists,…

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        3. Avram Grumer  👓‏ @avram 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @avram @arthur_affect and

          … no-fault divorce, laws preventing child abuse and spousal abuse, public schooling. I think everything on that list has, at some point, been labelled a leftist attack on the family by conservatives.

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        2. Xavier G. Richardson‏ @XavierGRichard1 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

          That's because family isn't something most people engage with rationally much, if at all. I don't think that, as a species, we're wired to think that way. We tend to connect with the idea of family on an emotional level much more than a rational, logical one.

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        3. Xavier G. Richardson‏ @XavierGRichard1 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @XavierGRichard1 @arthur_affect and

          And anything that threatens something we only connect to emotionally, well...the evolved instinct to protect pops out.

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        2. Miss Nia Psaka‏ @niauropsaka 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy @SamHaft

          That's Plato. And it's literally totalitarian.

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        3. Samson Corwell‏ @SamsonCorwell Feb 21
          Replying to @niauropsaka @arthur_affect and

          Calling Plato "totalitarian" is projecting contemporary political labels onto historical figures.

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