It's not at all the same.
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Replying to @Nymphomachy
While this is a thing that it would be impossible to prove, I think there are some statistics that can be helpful here. Like, which number of runaways ways are greater: adopted children who felt unloved, or biological children who felt that?
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Replying to @Nymphomachy
Yes but fostering is just children being dumped places. That's not even a chosen family. Adoption is something else entirely.
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Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy
Now, there are plenty of foster parents who try, my mother fosters children, and she tries to show them love and compassion. But, fundamentally, it's temporary. It's supposed to be.
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Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy
Whereas adoption isn't supposed to be temporary...even if it sometimes is. But the the exact same thing can be said of having biological children... It's supposed to be permanent, sometimes it isn't. And I'm not sure there's any real difference, statistically speaking.
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Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy
Well there are indeed adopted children who are thought of as lesser children, I suspect that might be countered by the number of people who never actually wanted their biological children, and the fact they can pick their adopted children and not their biological children.
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Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy
Now, obviously, in a way adopted families are cheating. The fact you have to do it on purpose, the ability to try before you buy, and if you adopt them old enough you can make sure that they aren't going to conflict with any...family rules like 'don't be gay'.
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Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy
I don't even know that it's that A huge chunk of the positive outcome stats for adoption may just be from adoptive parents themselves being gatekept Evaluated for having a criminal record or substance abuse issues or the like, yes, but also just for minimum income/wealth
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I’m wondering how this fits into the overall argument. If there are positive outcomes for adoption, doesn’t that prove adoption is capable of being a better family formation than biological family, regardless of which policies produce the positive outcomes?
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"Better" is a complicated question Adoptive families unambiguously have better stats like going to college or getting a good job when you do an apples to apples comparison (to families from the same community they were adopted out of)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @MercuryC0bra and
Because adoption is almost always a net increase in SES, and a substantial one But there are specific issues that come with adoption, which adoptees have frequently talked about and organized around (e.g. attachment disorder)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @MercuryC0bra and
Especially in the wake of the so called "baby scoop era" when private infant adoption was normalized as a solution for unwanted pregnancy for white women
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