Well there are indeed adopted children who are thought of as lesser children, I suspect that might be countered by the number of people who never actually wanted their biological children, and the fact they can pick their adopted children and not their biological children.
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Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy
Now, obviously, in a way adopted families are cheating. The fact you have to do it on purpose, the ability to try before you buy, and if you adopt them old enough you can make sure that they aren't going to conflict with any...family rules like 'don't be gay'.
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Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy
I don't even know that it's that A huge chunk of the positive outcome stats for adoption may just be from adoptive parents themselves being gatekept Evaluated for having a criminal record or substance abuse issues or the like, yes, but also just for minimum income/wealth
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
I think 'went through a complicated process to get children' is probably the best gatekeeping of all, but, yeah, the fact there are minimum requirements seems relevant too. As is the fact that the worst sorts of adoption allow this gatekeeping to be skipped.
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Adoption agencies allow prospective parents to just pay money to have someone else do 90% of the work in the process, and international adoption allows skipping basically all the parental requirements.
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I feel there's an analogy between private schools vs adoption, and public schools vs biological parents. Private schools _can_ have much better outcomes, because they can be incredibly selective. Also, some of them exist just to bilk people out of money and end up harming kids.
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The difference, of course, is that the government can require public schools exist, and everyone use them, and that actually is the best option for a level field. Whereas they can't require biological parents exist, or are in any way capable of being parents.
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*obviously I mean 'private schools _as_ adoption, and public schools _as_ biological parents.
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The problem in the adoption system is not the adoption...the problem is the kids who _need_ adoption and can't get it. And it's not just lack of parents...as evidenced by international adoption. It's just that certain kids are not wanted. And it's HUGE failure of the system.
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Replying to @RavenclawConsp @arthur_affect
The problem is both The adoption SYSTEM is irreparably fucked and morally unjustifiable (it's a children store. You literally buy a child from the child store.) and adoption itself is an incredibly fraught and extremely, extremely non-egalitarian concept
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You're conflating private adoption with public (foster) adoption There's a lot of gatekeeping in public adoption from the foster system but there absolutely isn't any upfront cost paid by the adoptive parents
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Yes, and post-adoption you still get support payments from the state to a lesser degree
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