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    1. Ravenclaw Conspiracy‏ @RavenclawConsp 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy

      I think this is making a lot of assumptions both about how blood family is treated, and about how chosen family is treated.

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    2. Ravenclaw Conspiracy‏ @RavenclawConsp 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy

      And I object to the weird concept that adopted family is the same as found family? Yes, there are some families that treated adopted childrenas if they are second class, but there are plenty of families that treat biological children as if their membership is conditional too!

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    3. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @RavenclawConsp

      It's not at all the same.

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    4. Ravenclaw Conspiracy‏ @RavenclawConsp 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy

      While this is a thing that it would be impossible to prove, I think there are some statistics that can be helpful here. Like, which number of runaways ways are greater: adopted children who felt unloved, or biological children who felt that?

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    5. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @RavenclawConsp

      The former, if you include fostering.

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    6. Ravenclaw Conspiracy‏ @RavenclawConsp 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy

      Yes but fostering is just children being dumped places. That's not even a chosen family. Adoption is something else entirely.

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    7. Ravenclaw Conspiracy‏ @RavenclawConsp 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy

      Now, there are plenty of foster parents who try, my mother fosters children, and she tries to show them love and compassion. But, fundamentally, it's temporary. It's supposed to be.

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    8. Ravenclaw Conspiracy‏ @RavenclawConsp 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy

      Whereas adoption isn't supposed to be temporary...even if it sometimes is. But the the exact same thing can be said of having biological children... It's supposed to be permanent, sometimes it isn't. And I'm not sure there's any real difference, statistically speaking.

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    9. Ravenclaw Conspiracy‏ @RavenclawConsp 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy

      Well there are indeed adopted children who are thought of as lesser children, I suspect that might be countered by the number of people who never actually wanted their biological children, and the fact they can pick their adopted children and not their biological children.

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    10. Ravenclaw Conspiracy‏ @RavenclawConsp 11 Dec 2020
      Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy

      Now, obviously, in a way adopted families are cheating. The fact you have to do it on purpose, the ability to try before you buy, and if you adopt them old enough you can make sure that they aren't going to conflict with any...family rules like 'don't be gay'.

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 13 Dec 2020
      Replying to @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy

      I don't even know that it's that A huge chunk of the positive outcome stats for adoption may just be from adoptive parents themselves being gatekept Evaluated for having a criminal record or substance abuse issues or the like, yes, but also just for minimum income/wealth

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        2. MercuryCobra‏ @MercuryC0bra 13 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy

          I’m wondering how this fits into the overall argument. If there are positive outcomes for adoption, doesn’t that prove adoption is capable of being a better family formation than biological family, regardless of which policies produce the positive outcomes?

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 13 Dec 2020
          Replying to @MercuryC0bra @RavenclawConsp @Nymphomachy

          "Better" is a complicated question Adoptive families unambiguously have better stats like going to college or getting a good job when you do an apples to apples comparison (to families from the same community they were adopted out of)

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        2. Ravenclaw Conspiracy‏ @RavenclawConsp 13 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy

          I think 'went through a complicated process to get children' is probably the best gatekeeping of all, but, yeah, the fact there are minimum requirements seems relevant too. As is the fact that the worst sorts of adoption allow this gatekeeping to be skipped.

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        3. Ravenclaw Conspiracy‏ @RavenclawConsp 13 Dec 2020
          Replying to @RavenclawConsp @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy

          Adoption agencies allow prospective parents to just pay money to have someone else do 90% of the work in the process, and international adoption allows skipping basically all the parental requirements.

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