Even though it's about as bourgeois as going out to brunch is, the discourse about the "grillpilled" joke is he's talking about *normal people*, "normies", whatever you think "normal" means
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Replying to @arthur_affect @eigenvectrix and
I mean Tina Fey's joke about "sheetcaking" is the exact same fucking thing - except that a buying sheet cake is much cheaper than having a grill and a place to use it - but people reacted very differently to that
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Replying to @arthur_affect @radiosintunnels and
Okay, it looks like we are at odds on this issue Kinda apprehensive about trying to cross brains with you but fuck it, this is what I believe, so I'll give it a shot What are you asserting exactly?
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Replying to @eigenvectrix @radiosintunnels and
I'm arguing that the reason the brunch thing took off as a meme is obviously due to cultural factors involving gender
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Replying to @arthur_affect @radiosintunnels and
I guess I don't agree because I had already seen analogous jokes about brunch made for several years prior to this year's brunch meme, in contexts where it would have been thoroughly nonsensical for them to be based on a common gender-based strand of bigotry
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Replying to @eigenvectrix @arthur_affect and
I regard 'brunch' jokes much the same way I regard 'wine mom' jokes — as fundamentally jokes that *involve* gender, that *are inseparable from* gender (there's no "wine dad" joke), but are *about* class, cultural and religious background, and privilege
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Replying to @eigenvectrix @arthur_affect and
But why? What is it about wine and brunch, precisely, that makes them about class, background, and privilege? What is it that constructs this association?
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Replying to @eggynack @arthur_affect and
Regarding wine: 1) decent wine costs more than decent beer 2) getting cheap wine is more stigmatised than getting cheap beer 3) wine is in larger units and spoils faster 4) wine has a culture of pretentious snobbery surrounding it due to, e.g., wine-tasting
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Replying to @eigenvectrix @eggynack and
Brunch, meanwhile: 1) is a trendy portmanteau word 2) in my experience, usually happens in a nice, upscale, gentrifying restaurant 3) happens between people of a middle-class cultural background 4) happens at a time in the day when people with a 9-5 are working
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Replying to @eigenvectrix @eggynack and
I'm a working-class person in a middle-class profession (music) — for me, brunches have always been occasions during which I have felt anxious and ill-at-ease
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I understand that it is a thing, I understand the thing, I have participated in the thing plenty of times in the past I am saying it's not a good thing
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Replying to @arthur_affect @eggynack and
1) I'm explaining it to the person I'm replying to 2) I understand that I am willing to change my *behaviour* to avoid misogynistic splash damage I just don't agree with the contention that the meme is fundamentally or primarily based on misogyny or homophobia
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Replying to @eigenvectrix @arthur_affect and
I think you'll find that it's a better theory than a lot of others. If you create a list of all the things we associate with high class, and then a list of those things we don't, it's hard to figure out a distinction that doesn't fall along these lines.
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