Yes, it does a lot of the things mythology does, it is in many ways analogous to mythology or "what we have instead of mythology" Fine When you say it actually is mythology you're ignoring a lot of obvious facts as though they just don't matter and that's annoying
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Lithobolos
It's like when people say stuff like "Football is my religion" and in some broad anthropological sense that's true and insightful and yet if you actually literally mean it and try to push it as literally true it's just stupid No it's not
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Lithobolos
"American civil religion" is definitely a thing, even among some people who are militantly "anti-religious"
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Replying to @LizardOrman @Lithobolos
Okay see yes and I would say that as hokey as you might find it there is actual literal "American mythology" that goes with the American civic religion that actually fits the definition of mythology much better than any fiction created for commercial media
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I mean, sure, George Washington chopping down the cherry tree has much less cultural relevance than Spider-Man (although not ZERO relevance, looking at the success of stuff like Hamilton)
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But that's not comic books being the new mythology, that's commercial fiction being more important nowadays than mythology Mythology, qua mythology, is much less of a thing in modern society I think the distinction does matter
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I mean How do I put this Actual mythology isn't something you *choose* It's just *there*, its relevance is assumed
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Like if someone shows you around their hometown and says "Oh yeah that's where John Henry died racing the steam drill" They're not saying that as a "John Henry fan", they're not talking about something they chose to watch for entertainment and assume you did too
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman
People of the past often knew myths were made up at the time and even if people are not fans of something the myth comparison is more about common cultural language. "When Thanos snapped his fingers," can be "Shaka, When the Walls Fell." Comics≠ Religious stories.
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Replying to @Lithobolos @LizardOrman
I strongly disagree with this and I think it's an example of presentism Like, it's starting off with the premise of wanting to imagine that all time periods and societies are basically the same and then trying to force obvious facts about them into that mold
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It is just simply false that the legends of Hercules, even if serious people in the time of Socrates no longer gave them much credence, were "pop culture" in the sense we have it today or that the name of the Pillars of Hercules was a "pop culture reference"
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Pop culture didn't exist Commonly referenced culture among ordinary people existed, sure That doesn't mean it actually literally was the same thing as pop culture like we have now Living in a different time period does, in fact, fundamentally change the kind of person you are
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A unified and purposeful zeitgeist apparatus enabled solely by emergent technology...didnt exist back then? But Ive been loving these "Popsicles versus X" radio dramas...
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