A lesbian is someone quitting their job at the factory, a gay man is the factory owner shutting the factory down to retire to the Bahamas In this worldview, one is a result of oppression and one is an oppressor pretending to give up oppression while actually increasing it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
Redstockings in particular were explicitly this "housewife rights" movement "If I have to live as a woman in a man's world then I'm damn well going to demand a man give me his paycheck in return for access to my womb" And men who say they have no interest in that deal are worse
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
TERFs - the majority of whom are middle class married straight women - still do say shit like this All the time Sheila Jeffreys went on about how married trans women transitioning were "betraying" cishet wives whose marriage contract entitled them to a "masculine husband"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
all the stuff in this thread i think reflects how incurious and unintellectual the modern terfs are like at least when the og terfs said "sex class" they really meant it and worked through what it would have to mean (e.g. that lesbians are the lumpenproletariat)
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Replying to @perdricof @LizardOrman and
Structures recapitulate without the need for conscious intent Married cishet TERFs absolutely treat "their lesbians" with the same kind of condescending pity many labor-focused radicals treat the long-term unemployed
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
one thing you realize if you study the history of philosophy is that ideas have a certain terrain to them, hills and valleys centers of gravity and people just find their way to the big ones pretty consistently, even if they think they're thinking everything through themselves
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Replying to @perdricof @arthur_affect and
the aristotelian position--that there are by nature two kinds of humans, men and women, divided into distinct and complementary functional roles, with consequent standards of excellence and defect--that's one of the real, real big ones
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Replying to @perdricof @arthur_affect and
and it is just so painfully obvious that it's the one all the terfs, classic and modern, are falling into whenever you confront them with counterexamples and problems they just reach for its terminology reflexively, "that's not normal," "that's a birth defect," etc. etc.
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Replying to @perdricof @arthur_affect and
whenever they say "we don't believe in gender roles! we only believe in Sex Roles!" they're just endorsing that position in different language
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Replying to @perdricof @arthur_affect and
"gender" in terf ideology has become implicitly figured as "social interpretation of sex that does not accord with nature" whereas any social interpretation of sex that does "accord with nature" is, of course, valorous and good
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Kathleen Stock's argument about "female sex-based rights" to homosocial spaces as a matter of "safety" is *this close* to demanding gendered (sorry, "sexed") dress codes and banning transvestism Anything that makes it harder to tell men from women at a glance is a threat
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
i mean they are literally recreating chivalry, like the justifications are just identical "chivalry with feminist tendencies"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
This is why Stock was cited in the amicus brief in Aimee Stephens' court case The issue was not the abstract concept of Stephens' "gender identity", nor even of Stephens' being in a designated female-only space It was the simple fact her makeup and clothes "confused people"
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