It's the core of the gender critical issue really, they're radfems who often don't just see men as broadly the same thing as women, in a patriarchal structre, but as almost another species, tainted by masculinity and fundamentally unreconcilable with women.
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Replying to @OwenAdamsYT @LizardOrman and
Therefore, gay man and lesbians have no commonality, because it's like expecting a hungry lion and a hungry gazelle to share the same goals because they're both hungry.
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Replying to @OwenAdamsYT @LizardOrman and
This goes wider than gay or trans issues, it might sound like nonsense, but on the further fringes it reaches a spiritual belief that men are fundamentally a parasitic organism that has corrupted woman, not really human at all.
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Replying to @OwenAdamsYT @LizardOrman and
(Obvs, it's a particularly mad fringe, but it's fostered of the same core idea. That patriarchy isn't a sociological problem, but an intrinsic one. Predator vs prey.)
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Replying to @OwenAdamsYT @LizardOrman and
Yes The Redstockings liked the Marxist analogy with labor To them homosexuality meant "dropping out of the market" (of reproductive labor) and obviously what that means depends on whether you're a boss or a worker
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
A lesbian is someone quitting their job at the factory, a gay man is the factory owner shutting the factory down to retire to the Bahamas In this worldview, one is a result of oppression and one is an oppressor pretending to give up oppression while actually increasing it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
Redstockings in particular were explicitly this "housewife rights" movement "If I have to live as a woman in a man's world then I'm damn well going to demand a man give me his paycheck in return for access to my womb" And men who say they have no interest in that deal are worse
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
TERFs - the majority of whom are middle class married straight women - still do say shit like this All the time Sheila Jeffreys went on about how married trans women transitioning were "betraying" cishet wives whose marriage contract entitled them to a "masculine husband"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
all the stuff in this thread i think reflects how incurious and unintellectual the modern terfs are like at least when the og terfs said "sex class" they really meant it and worked through what it would have to mean (e.g. that lesbians are the lumpenproletariat)
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Replying to @perdricof @LizardOrman and
Structures recapitulate without the need for conscious intent Married cishet TERFs absolutely treat "their lesbians" with the same kind of condescending pity many labor-focused radicals treat the long-term unemployed
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"Goodness, she's been burnt by men so bad she'll never experience the joy of motherhood, poor thing"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
(When we were arguing about Dr James Barry I still remember one of them calling him "poor thing" "She had to spend her whole life living a lie and gave up marriage and children to protect her career, poor thing" Good Lord shut the fuck up you turd)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
Was this after mentioning the whole thing about the scandal with the governor?
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