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Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Räv‏ @Eristae 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @arthur_affect

      The "white" race positions itself in opposition (and as superior) to *all other* "races" that come and go. The "white" race hasn't always existed, nor has it always existed in the form it has now. But it needs an "other" to position itself as better than. That's what it *means.*

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    2. 4 Lv. 11 Geodudes‏ @ILoveUTigerLily 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Eristae @arthur_affect

      I’m not sure if you’re trying to say “European ethnic identification doesn’t exist” or “European ethnic identification has historical baggage.” but people who come from Europe are going to have some ethnic identification regardless of their relative power or lack thereof.

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    3. 4 Lv. 11 Geodudes‏ @ILoveUTigerLily 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @Eristae @arthur_affect

      You can easily imagine some alternate universe where some other race has oppressed what we call white people, but there isn’t even an imaginary universe where labor oppresses capital. That’s what I mean by a mechanical nature, and that’s why I don’t call class identity-based.

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    4. MudDude‏ @MudDude4 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @Eristae @arthur_affect

      ... "The dictatorship of the proletariat" is right there in marxist text as an intermediate step towards socialism. You may not imagine it, but it is literally built into the concept of class warfare.

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    5. 4 Lv. 11 Geodudes‏ @ILoveUTigerLily 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @MudDude4 @Eristae @arthur_affect

      There’s never any point where labor oppresses capital because, at any point, any capitalist can instantly stop being a capitalist and, health dependent, start being a laborer.

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    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @MudDude4 @Eristae

      If money actually worked the way the on-paper institutions and laws said it did, sure, this would be true My argument is that in the world as we actually live it, this is false, and this falsehood cuts to the core of what was so challenging about Marxist revolutions in real life

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily and

      The USSR and PRC never achieved that classless society because, wouldn't you know it, that "class consciousness" is remarkably persistent no matter what you do

      4 replies 3 retweets 19 likes
    8. AnarchoToast‏ @Anarcho_Toast 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily and

      They maintained a class society, consciousness wasn’t the factor but the relations of production were simply managed by a single firm

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Anarcho_Toast @ILoveUTigerLily and

      If you actually care a lot about this literal definition that we've been arguing about, that class is a matter of what happens on paper - of literally owning stock - then no, the USSR and PRC abolished capital very early on

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Anarcho_Toast and

      Hell the PRC today, incredibly, still claims on paper to have no such thing as capital and owning stock Just something that functions incredibly similarly to it (Just like, technically, you can't "own real estate" in fee simple in the PRC but just a long-term lease)

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Anarcho_Toast and

      The fact that, obviously, China has a thriving stock market and an elite class of real estate speculators is evidence that in the crudest sense it's incredibly obvious you can be a capitalist without being a "capitalist" I'm arguing this is generally true

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        2. 4 Lv. 11 Geodudes‏ @ILoveUTigerLily 7 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Anarcho_Toast and

          It would argue that all of these people are, in fact, capitalists, and certainly everyone from my school of leftist thought would agree with me.

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        3. AnarchoToast‏ @Anarcho_Toast 7 Dec 2020
          Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @arthur_affect and

          Even in liberal democracies real estate is essentially managed as leases by the their states but the ideological dynamics in law differ but the dynamic isn’t foreign in practice

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        1. Ken Tobe‏ @KidThorazine 7 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Anarcho_Toast and

          china has proclaimed itself to be "state capitalist" at least unofficially. Lenin also did that.

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        1. AnarchoToast‏ @Anarcho_Toast 7 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily and

          Now you’re making more sense and I badly eluded to the same

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