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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. 4 Lv. 11 Geodudes‏ @ILoveUTigerLily 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect

      You still haven’t addressed the parasitic nature of class that doesn’t exist for any of these “identity-based” oppressions. There’s no race that requires another race to exist.

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    2. Räv‏ @Eristae 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @arthur_affect

      The "white" race absolutely requires non-white races to exist that it can position itself as superior to. This is an inherent part of what "white" as a race is and why different groups have tried so hard to get integrated into the "white" race.

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    3. 4 Lv. 11 Geodudes‏ @ILoveUTigerLily 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Eristae @arthur_affect

      Can you name the race that, if it stopped existing, the white race would stop existing?

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    4. Räv‏ @Eristae 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @arthur_affect

      The "white" race positions itself in opposition (and as superior) to *all other* "races" that come and go. The "white" race hasn't always existed, nor has it always existed in the form it has now. But it needs an "other" to position itself as better than. That's what it *means.*

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    5. 4 Lv. 11 Geodudes‏ @ILoveUTigerLily 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Eristae @arthur_affect

      I’m not sure if you’re trying to say “European ethnic identification doesn’t exist” or “European ethnic identification has historical baggage.” but people who come from Europe are going to have some ethnic identification regardless of their relative power or lack thereof.

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    6. 4 Lv. 11 Geodudes‏ @ILoveUTigerLily 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @Eristae @arthur_affect

      You can easily imagine some alternate universe where some other race has oppressed what we call white people, but there isn’t even an imaginary universe where labor oppresses capital. That’s what I mean by a mechanical nature, and that’s why I don’t call class identity-based.

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    7. MudDude‏ @MudDude4 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @Eristae @arthur_affect

      ... "The dictatorship of the proletariat" is right there in marxist text as an intermediate step towards socialism. You may not imagine it, but it is literally built into the concept of class warfare.

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    8. 4 Lv. 11 Geodudes‏ @ILoveUTigerLily 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @MudDude4 @Eristae @arthur_affect

      There’s never any point where labor oppresses capital because, at any point, any capitalist can instantly stop being a capitalist and, health dependent, start being a laborer.

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily @MudDude4 @Eristae

      If money actually worked the way the on-paper institutions and laws said it did, sure, this would be true My argument is that in the world as we actually live it, this is false, and this falsehood cuts to the core of what was so challenging about Marxist revolutions in real life

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily and

      The USSR and PRC never achieved that classless society because, wouldn't you know it, that "class consciousness" is remarkably persistent no matter what you do

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Dec 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily and

      The weird thing here is that I think I am a "class reductionist" in that I think race/gender/sexuality/all that good stuff *is class*, they are all "class structures"

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily and

          But what YOU call "class" is an extremely weaksauce definition of "class" (which is why the new breed of academics went looking for new words like "power structure" and "marginalization") There is so much more to it than what is written down on pieces of paper

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 7 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily and

          This is why I hate the Marxist cultural thing of pitting "idealism" against "materialism" so much It's really just a preference for an institutional, "rationalized" lens (Weber's terminology) for measuring the world, but it's not "material"

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        2. insdawmental wavecore‏ @transy_ent 7 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily and

          this barely touches my favourite thing to get mad about in online discourse: people saying "X" but meaning "Y kind of X" because as you say, all those map to "class" in a pure meaning of "class" but money maps to "economic class" and i'm pretty that's what many people mean

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        3. insdawmental wavecore‏ @transy_ent 7 Dec 2020
          Replying to @transy_ent

          but then character limits etc, no one wants to do rigorous philosophy or analysis of any kind on twitter, we don't have the space etc

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