A lot of people arguing that if class were "merely another identity" then that means "if we just thought about it differently it would go away" As though there's any form of "identity-based" oppression for which that actually is truehttps://twitter.com/nberlat/status/1335848556096270338 …
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I would argue that, as an example, racial discrimination against Italians in the US is an identity based oppression that went away because it was thought about differently.
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Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily
I mean yes, in the crudest sense, since all oppression is carried out by humans who base their actions on their thoughts, all oppression could be ended by "thinking about things differently" The abolition of private property and class would just be people "thinking differently"
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I would argue that the relationship between classes (specifically here capitalists and workers) is more mechanical in nature. Any owner who profits without working is automatically extracting wealth from a worker. It’s a parasitic relationship.
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Replying to @ILoveUTigerLily
Okay but that's the whole thing, it's all socially constructed, including all the "mechanical" shit that underlies class, like the concept of property As we all know, money is just pieces of paper and bits in a computer, and so are titles and leases and laws
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily
And *all* "socially constructed" marginalized identities reproduce themselves just as mechanically They only exist in the heads of the people who enforce them - there's no laws of physics that enforce any of them - but they're real nonetheless
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily
This is the big huge sticking point for so many people They think of racism as personal animus - it's a matter of white people getting pissed off, hateful, deciding they want to go fuck up some nonwhite people today It's not, it's just as structural as class
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily
It *can be* personal and emotive, sure Just like class can result in "classism", in someone getting pissed off and yelling "You worthless peon, do you know who I am?" because they're a CEO and the other person is a retail worker But it doesn't *need* that to exist
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily
This is the whole "I don't have a racist bond in my body" thing White people talk like the fact that they've never thought hateful thoughts about a Black person, they've never said the N-word, etc means they're "not racist" and racism has nothing to do with them
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Which is as unfortunately false as the idea that always being cordial and polite to your employees and earnestly believing we're all human beings and no one is any better than anyone else etc means you're not exploiting them
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ILoveUTigerLily
You know the part that is most annoying to me? Marxist analysis of society is meant to be an ahistoric reduction to basics of haegemony. Marxist proletariat under capitalism is just the way they present power relationships in their contemporary rendition of it.
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