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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @iridienne

      If any one of these is missing, it's grounds to challenge the marriage is invalid for the purpose of annulment etc, if all three are then the annulment is pretty much guaranteed

      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    2. Vapor Weyve‏ @Nymphomachy 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @iridienne

      Some people may fail to achieve one of these things, but it takes a true, pink-streaked, procyon rube to fail the hat trick

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    3. Hoydenne‏ @iridienne 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @Nymphomachy @arthur_affect

      In Canada, for immigration purposes at least, the definition also includes monogamy. "Open marriage" is, we were told in no uncertain terms, invalid according to the Canadian Immigration Bureau.

      2 replies 2 retweets 8 likes
    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @iridienne @Nymphomachy

      Yeah and the definition of polygamy also draws on the three Cs The first one being the big one, as always, but they also look really askance at you having a long-term roommate, especially if said roommate is depositing their paychecks directly into your bank account

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @iridienne @Nymphomachy

      That last piece has fucked a lot of people over who were lowkey practicing polygamy in Utah etc. Insurance companies played a lead role in busting polygamists, by catching out people putting people they weren't legally married to on a joint policy

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @iridienne @Nymphomachy

      Or, like, if you weren't legally married (because it was a poly situation) then you have no legal recourse when you get "divorced" -- the money you sank into helping pay the mortgage was just "rent", the furniture you bought was just a "gift", you can't get anything back

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @iridienne @Nymphomachy

      And even if they can't prove you've actually been having sex with your "roommate", if a married couple has a roommate who's been giving them almost 100% of their paycheck the whole time they've been living there that is sufficient evidence to get arrested by the FBI for bigamy

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. Random832‏ @Random832 29 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @iridienne @Nymphomachy

      wait even disregarding everything else, why is it a *federal* crime

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 29 Nov 2020
      Replying to @Random832 @iridienne @Nymphomachy

      Polygamy is a federal crime (as well as being a state crime in all 50 states + DC) Under the Edmunds Act of 1882, which explicitly states that it covers "unlawful cohabitation" (what in the old days we'd call "common-law marriage") as well as an actual marriage license

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 29 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Random832 and

      This was, of course, obviously and explicitly an instrument of persecution against the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-Day Saints at the time Which is why Mormons still hate this law (even the mainstream ones who don't practice polygamy), along with hardcore civil libertarians

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 29 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Random832 and

      But the Supreme Court has upheld it as not violating the First Amendment because plural marriage is a bridge too far for what the SCOTUS will accept as covered by the umbrella of "religious freedom", so that's the status quo

      12:05 AM - 29 Nov 2020
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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 29 Nov 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Random832 and

          It doesn't just make it illegal, it actually set up a federal commission in the Utah Territory to proactively get into people's business and make sure they weren't hiding extra wives in their houses A task the modern FBI still sees as in their purview

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        3. Random832‏ @Random832 29 Nov 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @iridienne @Nymphomachy

          ok but is the federal jurisdiction actually lawful now that Utah is a state? And, there aren't any "territories" in the sense as Utah was anymore, has it ever been clearly defined what if anything counts as "other place over which the United States have exclusive jurisdiction"?

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