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    1. Jeannette Ng 吳志麗‏ @jeannette_ng 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

      Notable also is how medieval church records would often Latin-ised everyone's names to Henricus or whatever but their daily use name is likely a dialectal diminutive of it

      3 replies 1 retweet 22 likes
    2. Amelia Bloody Rose‏ @AmeliaRoseWrite 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @jeannette_ng @arthur_affect @SpaceKujira

      True. And the hegemony that came from first the Roman Empire and later the Catholic church meant that Latin was the prestige language in Europe, so that was political, too

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    3. Jeannette Ng 吳志麗‏ @jeannette_ng 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @AmeliaRoseWrite @arthur_affect @SpaceKujira

      My understanding of how classical written Chinese is used historically is very coloured by me being a medievalist, I confess. I often end up likening it to the relationship the various European cultures had to Latin.

      1 reply 0 retweets 17 likes
    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @jeannette_ng @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

      There's a lot of similarities, yeah Including how "classical Chinese" as we know it is a "high language" that for much of its history was used by scholars to communicate in writing, that they translated their actual daily vernacular into

      1 reply 0 retweets 18 likes
    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @jeannette_ng and

      So a lot of the stuff that makes a book like the Dao De Jing so gnomic is just the result of it being highly compressed into shorthand by scribes etc

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    6. Jeannette Ng 吳志麗‏ @jeannette_ng 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

      It is also sometimes very not gnomic because those characters being still in use can have very blunt and mundane meanings. Like, some old texts can seem so immediate you forget that character used to mean another thing. That there has been linguistic change.

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    7. Jeannette Ng 吳志麗‏ @jeannette_ng 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @jeannette_ng @arthur_affect and

      Have we brought up how the use of Chinese characters to transliterate loanwords can result in added meaning? It blew my mind utterly to learn that the origin of 台灣 wasn't that it looked like a platform. It's a transliteration of an older native name.

      2 replies 1 retweet 14 likes
    8. Jeannette Ng 吳志麗‏ @jeannette_ng 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @jeannette_ng @arthur_affect and

      And that obfuscation can make it look like chinese is very "pure", that we don't have loanwords, because they get so thoroughly assimilated and the characters ascribe new meaning that create the mirage of a plausible etymology within the language

      3 replies 5 retweets 21 likes
    9. Jeannette Ng 吳志麗‏ @jeannette_ng 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @jeannette_ng @arthur_affect and

      There are a lot of other examples, including things like 饅頭 which has a folk etymology that it comes from barbarian (蠻) heads, with a whole story where zhugeliang is asked to do a ritual sacrifice of human heads and makes delicious buns instead

      1 reply 2 retweets 11 likes
    10. Jeannette Ng 吳志麗‏ @jeannette_ng 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @jeannette_ng @arthur_affect and

      Jeannette Ng 吳志麗 Retweeted Jeannette Ng 吳志麗

      I had a whole rant when I first found out. And the big thing is that, well, mantou is Turkic and acknowledging that feels important to mehttps://twitter.com/jeannette_ng/status/1263134404509138944?s=21 …

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      Jeannette Ng 吳志麗 @jeannette_ng
      The folk etymology of 馒头(steamed bun) is an interesting illustration of cultural identity. Mantou comes frm Turkic, just as the filled dumpling itself is probably from Central Asia. There are cognates of the word all over Asia. But the folk etymology tells a different story. pic.twitter.com/1RfBH0WOva
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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @jeannette_ng @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

      Ha ha yeah God, just try telling my dad that a staple of Chinese cuisine came from Central Asia That any culture ever flowed from the Western barbarians to Beijing and not in the other direction

      1:50 AM - 28 Nov 2020
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        2. Jeannette Ng 吳志麗‏ @jeannette_ng 28 Nov 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

          Whether barbarian culture is a contamination that makes us impure or something that would strengthen us is a debate that is old. So old. There's a even debate about it in the Qin court.pic.twitter.com/fCQRvb4PAw

          1 reply 4 retweets 27 likes
        3. Jeannette Ng 吳志麗‏ @jeannette_ng 28 Nov 2020
          Replying to @jeannette_ng @arthur_affect and

          But obviously the thing no one says in these debates is that "barbarian" culture has a right to exist even if it isn't strengthening "us". That this utilitarian approach to culture is dehumanising, dichotomies are reductive, etc.

          0 replies 3 retweets 21 likes
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        1. Windy‏ @windy_rockbell 28 Nov 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @jeannette_ng and

          This reminds me of that article that was going around of some Chinese "historians" declaring they had determined English was a Chinese dialect introduced to the West at some point.

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