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    1. Amelia Bloody Rose‏ @AmeliaRoseWrite 27 Nov 2020

      Amelia Bloody Rose Retweeted 陳俊傑 Carl Tan Chun Kiet

      Interesting threadhttps://twitter.com/tanchunkiet/status/1332566007995535361 …

      Amelia Bloody Rose added,

      陳俊傑 Carl Tan Chun Kiet @tanchunkiet
      If you only knew Pinyin, what would you think would be the character for Tan, Heng, Kwok, or Hioe? Stumped right? That's because none of those names are derived from Mandarin. They're derived from other Sinitic languages like Hokkien, Teochew, Cantonese, and Hakka. 4/14
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    2. SpaceKujira‏ @SpaceKujira 27 Nov 2020
      Replying to @AmeliaRoseWrite @arthur_affect

      Somehow kind of guessed this based on Taiwanese and Hong Kongers and SE Asian Chinese sometimes seeming to have different patterns of Romanized names, never saw it written out before. Good to see a proper explanation.

      1 reply 1 retweet 15 likes
    3. Amelia Bloody Rose‏ @AmeliaRoseWrite 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @SpaceKujira @arthur_affect

      Same. I have a very general sense that East and Southeast Asian names seem different but lack any proper context to trace it, so this is a good launch point!

      1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

      Yeah there's this viral NYT article from the 2000s about how the NYT's (and most US pubs') style guide for transliterating "Chinese names" as a whole bows to Mandarin cultural imperialism It gave the example of a random guy quoted in some NYT story as "Mr. Wu"

      1 reply 5 retweets 46 likes
    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

      Pointing out that, yes, this is technically correct, because his name is written in hanzi as 吳, and in Mandarin that's pronounced "Wu" But Mr. Wu, a working-class bus driver from Guangzhou, most likely *never* called himself "Wu" in daily conversation

      1 reply 3 retweets 38 likes
    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

      And his ancestors, for the vast majority of their family history, wouldn't have called themselves "Wu" either Because as a South Chinese family from Guangdong their actual native language was Cantonese, in which 吳 is pronounced "Ng"

      2 replies 4 retweets 51 likes
    7. @DogSquadIndia 🐕 🇮🇳‏ @thedogshala 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

      Guangdong is Canton, right?

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    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @thedogshala @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

      Yes

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 28 Nov 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @thedogshala and

      "Canton" for "Guangdong" dates back to the loosey-goosey era of Europeans just making up transliterations off the cuff and is probably influenced by the 100% coincidental similarity to the French word "canton" for "district"

      12:26 AM - 28 Nov 2020
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        2. @DogSquadIndia 🐕 🇮🇳‏ @thedogshala 28 Nov 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @AmeliaRoseWrite @SpaceKujira

          I always wondered how they got Peking from Beijing

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        3. @DogSquadIndia 🐕 🇮🇳‏ @thedogshala 28 Nov 2020
          Replying to @thedogshala @arthur_affect and

          I'd imagine it was a lot more difficult for British to adapt/hack Chinese names than say, Indian

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