Like just saying "oh they're inherently good people and moral paragons" is...not enough.
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Replying to @dreamingnoctis @Nymphomachy and
That’s the mythical part though. That people can be good and absolute power granted him empathy not ambition. That’s the engine of it. If retold doesn’t modern audiences as him landing in anywhere and being any race or socioeconomic strata, that would be the part that stays.
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Replying to @BradMichaelElm1 @dreamingnoctis and
Though admittedly the “fans” would wig cause superheroes are a cancer on the mind of the non curious adolescent.
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Replying to @BradMichaelElm1 @dreamingnoctis and
This is not a hill I’ll die on so I hope I don’t come across as trying to shout down a discourse because these are all salient points.
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Replying to @BradMichaelElm1 @dreamingnoctis and
Yeah I mean mostly I just don't like the argument modern Superman apologia makes about how the Kents being decent people is enough to make a decent child, especially a decent child with no axes of marginalization or traumas, as though setting is orthogonal or apolitical
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @BradMichaelElm1 and
I mean it's fine for Superman to be good just because he's, like, genetically a decent person inclined to be decent, because fukkit he's an alien, who cares But to put it all on the Kents who are just these sui generis saints in the middle of Confederate flag country is bonkers
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @dreamingnoctis and
I hear ya I just don’t think that these characters unreality is built to sustain these ideas. They’re bigger than that. They are myth.
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Replying to @BradMichaelElm1 @dreamingnoctis and
Yeah, which is fine, as long as the mythologization centers Superman and not Kansas
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @dreamingnoctis and
Sure but, you’re gonna hate this, I think the Kent’s are mythic too. It’s that they didn’t have to adopt him. You can assume being Superman he could see through whatever small minded shit they might have at a young age. It’s cause they loved him. This is why hated Superman RedSon
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Replying to @BradMichaelElm1 @Nymphomachy and
Because the play should’ve been that it doesn’t matter if he landed in Russia, it should’ve been the same outcome. Two people loved him and therefore he loves people.
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It's because unlike the Kents they were loyal communists who handed him over to the government Which is a pretty ugly way of othering people in Soviet Russia tbh
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BradMichaelElm1 and
But Red Son is imo not that different from the worst case scenario of the US government "raising Clark in a lab" she was trying to avoid (The scenario that created Homelander on The Boys)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Yeah I still hate it. It’s missing the point. These are tools to tell a story and tell whatever you want I just think there’s diminishing returns with that line of thinking.
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