Unfortunately this has turned into a politicized thing by which people judge each other ("knowing" that "chai tea" is "wrong" is a signal that you're worldlier, more educated and more culturally sensitive than someone who doesn't) It's all kind of a shitty situationhttps://twitter.com/Miandre/status/1330654453024755712 …
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Honestly I think there should be more redundancy in language and everything should have a generic type term attached to it so you know for sure what you're talking about Salmon fish, filet mignon steak, hamburger sandwich, pizza flatbread, gyazo dumplings, tequila liquor
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Honestly my take on this is that I knew a girl once who grew up in the Florida panhandle and said the word "tortilla" to rhyme with "Godzilla" and then immediately said "Okay I know how you're supposed to say it but that's what I grew up saying, I swear I'm not a racist"
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And the way she rattled this off as a rehearsed speech like she'd said it dozens of times before did successfully make me feel bad about the fact that I had been about to correct her
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I mean whatever, people should just be chill Someone intentionally saying the Ls in "tortilla" to make some kind of point is an asshole but so is some Anglo guy intentionally putting on a full Spanish accent to show how smart he is
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I had a convo with another Chinese speaker who got annoyed at me for using tonality in Mandarin words in an English sentence "Why are you talking like that? It's not Táiwān, it's just Taiwan" "It's Táiwān in Chinese" "But we're speaking English! Speak one language at a time!"
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"You don't see French people going around saying Pah-ree in English do you? That's how you get beat up"
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(Lapsing into tonal pronunciations when speaking an otherwise atonal language is legitimately jarring and confusing since it breaks up the flow of English's own subtle tonality by which a sentence flows More importantly, it comes off as "fobby", which in LA was very bad)
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(There are a lot of disadvantages to being the only Asian person you know, but the thing about being in a large community of other immigrant families for the first time is it can in some ways be worse You find out all the things you were doing wrong)
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Replying to @arthur_affect
This is a really interesting thread to me. Linguistics is fascinating. Thanks for pointing out all these nuances.
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