And Forest Gump, at least, is not actually handicapped in a way that is diagnosable, it's more a fairytail construct/device to make him a superhero absolved of greed, ambition, or malice. I mean still not great, but y'know.
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They don't say out loud what "Music's" disability is in the movie either but yeah this time it's very very obvious it maps onto autism I can't believe her name is literally "Music"
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That's what I mean, that it can be mapped. I have complicated feelings on Gump because it's a Boomer Fairytale but it's also like... effectively crafted. Some would say manipulative but that is craft, and it's quietly more cynical than it lets on.
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if they got rid of the Black Panther shit... that whole thing is the worst. Controversially I like the character of Jenny a lot. She's not demonized as much as just society demonizes her everytime she tries something.
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Replying to @BradMichaelElm1 @arthur_affect and
Whereas I don't think there seems to be anything even worth arguing about in Sia's movie. It looks like the classic problem of abstraction to cover lack of craft or understanding of people and life.
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It feels... a LOT like a corny idea for a music video that's been disastrously extended into a corny idea for a feature film
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BradMichaelElm1 and
Like it's a classic music video cliché, the weird dreamy character who doesn't speak observes some everyday scenario and translates it in their head into an elaborately choreographed dream sequence set to the song in their headphones
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BradMichaelElm1 and
Which, you know, whatever, fine But she felt the need to turn this into a whole story and establish that the daydreaming is because of a serious disability and have the Black mentor character directly lecture us that "she sees the world in a different way" Major cringe
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That's the part that made me think of tropic thunder the most. His exposition dump cracked me up.
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It's like the story of Zhuangzi and the birds It's a speech that demands the listener pause for a beat, and then reply "How the fuck would YOU know"
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(The Chinese philosopher Zhuangzi famously once was watching some birds singing in the trees and idly said how fortunate birds are to be so happy all the time One of his students piped up, "Sir, you aren't a bird and you've never been one, how would you know how a bird feels")
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BradMichaelElm1 and
(Zhuangzi paused for a second, then said, "Well, you're not me and you've never been me" "How would you know whether or not I know how a bird feels" As with many of his sayings, it seems obviously wrong and yet is infuriatingly difficult to logically refute)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BradMichaelElm1 and
(This whole story very neatly encapsulates the FURIOUS discourse over "empathy" and "theory of mind" in the autism community)
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