But if you take French culture going back millennia then it's super not secular. It is in fact explicitly Catholic. So either French culture goes back millennia, in which case claiming secularism is nonsense, or it doesn't, in which case it can mean Muslim as much as anything.
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Replying to @faronfish @arthur_affect and
Cool, so we can make French culture one that includes Muslims as being part of Frenchness. Glad you agree.
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Replying to @faronfish @TrueMetis and
Japan HAS Maple Trees so Maple Syrup isn't by default foreign to Japan. Plus they use Maple Syrup in Japan, maybe not as much as other nations, but it's not some mystery liquid they never touch so they've already embraced it. You see cultures are fluid like that.
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Replying to @faronfish @TrueMetis and
Culture is everything from the way people act to the way they dress to to what they eat to music to the cute little shit they put around their friggin homes. Due to the absolute fluidity of culture French Muslims are just as much part of French culture as any other French person.
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Replying to @Overlord_Mikey @faronfish and
A *significant portion* of "French culture", in fact -- some polls say that 10% of the population under 25 is Muslim Which is exactly why people are freaking out and passing fascist laws to try to force cultural assimilation
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Overlord_Mikey and
this isn't even going into how the "millennia old" monolithic french culture is largely something invented fairly recently. Like, you would be surprised at how many secessionist movements, as minor as they can be, exist in mainland France.
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Replying to @DerWaffleMous @Overlord_Mikey and
Yeah the invention of "France" -- la Métropole -- wasn't really a finished process until the 1500s (the "dawn of modernity") and involved a lot of fighting and bloodshed
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JFC the French revolutionaries invented the metric system because all the cities and villages in France still couldn't even agree on how long a foot was or how much a pound weighed
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