Is it possible to pardon someone from state-law charges? I thought a pardon was no good for getting him out from the wrath of the NY AG.
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And wouldn’t constitute an admission of guilt? Like it would be funny if Trump rage quits, Pence becomes president, pardons Trump, Trump publicly accepts pardon, Trump gets prosecuted, and then that acceptance of said pardon is admitted into the record as evidence...
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Well, this isn't really true A pardon has no specific, clear meaning re: "guilt" or "innocence", it's just a statement the government will no longer be pursuing any action against you for your crimes
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Replying to @arthur_affect @queerthecloset and
This is important, because many people pursue pardons after they've already served their sentence, as a way of "clearing their name" -- collecting evidence they were innocent and asking to be pardoned on that basis It's the same reason many posthumous pardons are issued
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Replying to @arthur_affect @queerthecloset and
But while a lot of people seem to accept the symbolic meaning of those pardons, other people have symbolically *rejected* pardons, on the view that being pardoned implies guilt (This has no legal meaning, once you're pardoned you can't just demand they have the trial anyway)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @queerthecloset and
Pardons are -- in my opinion -- kind of a messed up concept and fundamentally problematic, they're descended from the days of monarchy and their original philosophical justification is just the idea that the whole government is owned by the King the way someone owns a company
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Replying to @arthur_affect @queerthecloset and
But in the mean time, they are one way to right past injustices our legal system is known to have. Yes, they have to be considered by an ethical leader who is aware of the gravity such power has, but until we fix the fucked up system that created this mess...
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Replying to @BrentonPoke @queerthecloset and
I mean yeah It's just that this relies on the hope that the President is, you know, a good person and not a huge piece of shit
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BrentonPoke and
Sometimes the President or the governor pardons someone who was clearly railroaded by racist cops Sometimes the person they pardon IS the racist cop -- sometimes it's a racist Maricopa County sheriff who ran his jurisdiction like an unelected despot and ruined countless lives
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As always in American democracy, you casts your vote and you takes your chances
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