No NPI is close to "100% or nearly so". None. So....
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So any measures we do pass need to be as close to universial as possible, and any messaging that any group of people is immune or "doesn't need to worry" is deeply irresponsible
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Who said any of this? No one is immune save those already infected. But not everyone is at grave risk. This is a fact. We *know* who the vulnerable population is. Focus.
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Oh fuck you man You know who's vulnerable? Me I'm not in the "most vulnerable" group, but I'm vulnerable, largely because, to be blunt, I'm fat I do not expect the government to give me money anytime soon to enable me to "fully lock down" while everyone else parties
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I get it. You're scared. Trying to be delicate here because I don't aim to insult but you realize your ask, right? That healthy people quarantine to protect you from your previous choices (obesity being mostly non-genetic)? This is the definition of moral hazard.
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Replying to @Reroot_Flyover @arthur_affect and
Jesus fucking wept, dude. Healthy people are getting sick, too, and suffering from sequelae that may be lifelong. The economy can be rebuilt, but people can’t come back from the dead.
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Replying to @TheRedRaptor @arthur_affect and
Look, of course healthy people are getting sick too. And most are healing just fine. Long covid is as yet unproven. The effects unknown but not likely to be much diff. than other respiratory viruses. I never mentioned the economy. This is about not just life but *living*...
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Replying to @Reroot_Flyover @TheRedRaptor and
Bullshit The first SARS was a respiratory disease -- COVID-19 is not 12% of hospitalized patients in China came out with cardiac damage, 30% with kidney damage A cytokine storm is a known, predictable "phase 2" of COVID-19 symptoms if you survive the "phase 1" pneumonia
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TheRedRaptor and
Cytokine storms are not unique to covid and they occur in critically ill patients. Whats your point? They happen with many other, wait for it, *respiratory diseases* including common colds, flu, SARS, MERS, and a host of others. This is *not* indicative of "lifelong sequelae"..
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Replying to @Reroot_Flyover @TheRedRaptor and
Yeah okay what is the percentage of people experiencing cytokine storms from the common cold vs. COVID-19
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Without getting into the details of statistical analysis and epidemiology here, it is just on the face of it absurd that you're arguing a disease that's killed over 200,000 people in less than a year was *only* more serious than the common cold to those specific people
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