There are two terms you multiply together to see how effective a lockdown is, one of them being how strict the measures are and the other being how many people are doing it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Reroot_Flyover and
Unless the effectiveness of your measures is actually 100% or nearly so, the number of people doing it matters a whole lot
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No NPI is close to "100% or nearly so". None. So....
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So any measures we do pass need to be as close to universial as possible, and any messaging that any group of people is immune or "doesn't need to worry" is deeply irresponsible
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Who said any of this? No one is immune save those already infected. But not everyone is at grave risk. This is a fact. We *know* who the vulnerable population is. Focus.
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Oh fuck you man You know who's vulnerable? Me I'm not in the "most vulnerable" group, but I'm vulnerable, largely because, to be blunt, I'm fat I do not expect the government to give me money anytime soon to enable me to "fully lock down" while everyone else parties
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I get it. You're scared. Trying to be delicate here because I don't aim to insult but you realize your ask, right? That healthy people quarantine to protect you from your previous choices (obesity being mostly non-genetic)? This is the definition of moral hazard.
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Replying to @Reroot_Flyover @arthur_affect and
Jesus fucking wept, dude. Healthy people are getting sick, too, and suffering from sequelae that may be lifelong. The economy can be rebuilt, but people can’t come back from the dead.
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Replying to @TheRedRaptor @arthur_affect and
Look, of course healthy people are getting sick too. And most are healing just fine. Long covid is as yet unproven. The effects unknown but not likely to be much diff. than other respiratory viruses. I never mentioned the economy. This is about not just life but *living*...
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Replying to @Reroot_Flyover @TheRedRaptor and
Bullshit The first SARS was a respiratory disease -- COVID-19 is not 12% of hospitalized patients in China came out with cardiac damage, 30% with kidney damage A cytokine storm is a known, predictable "phase 2" of COVID-19 symptoms if you survive the "phase 1" pneumonia
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Even in its "phase 1" the virus is versatile enough that its initial onset can be predicted by gastrointestinal symptoms, and fecal matter is a known vector of transmission Every clinician knows you can tell a cadaver had COVID just from blood clots riddled throughout the body
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Reroot_Flyover and
Even if you dismiss every anecdote from someone coming on here and telling you their story of getting "long COVID" it is plain as day that COVID-19 is not just an "ordinary respiratory disease" and it is not credible that it has the same long-term prognosis as a bad flu
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Reroot_Flyover and
But no one should dismiss the anecdotes. I personally know someone who had covid in March and continues to be on a feeding tube and is regularly in and out of the hospital with complications. 30s, normal BMI, no known preexisting conditions.
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