Unless you can somehow enforce a lockdown on all the younger people who work there too (including their families), any "herd immunity" strategy is just sentencing all the nursing homes to death
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Exactly. Enforce a lockdown of those workers if needed (with appropriate relief). Why it needs to extend beyond that makes no sense. "Somehow enforce". We can't be sure we can entice and enforce a lockdown of this smaller pop. But we're sure we can with the entire pop.? Come on
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There are two terms you multiply together to see how effective a lockdown is, one of them being how strict the measures are and the other being how many people are doing it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Reroot_Flyover and
Unless the effectiveness of your measures is actually 100% or nearly so, the number of people doing it matters a whole lot
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No NPI is close to "100% or nearly so". None. So....
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So any measures we do pass need to be as close to universial as possible, and any messaging that any group of people is immune or "doesn't need to worry" is deeply irresponsible
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Who said any of this? No one is immune save those already infected. But not everyone is at grave risk. This is a fact. We *know* who the vulnerable population is. Focus.
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Oh fuck you man You know who's vulnerable? Me I'm not in the "most vulnerable" group, but I'm vulnerable, largely because, to be blunt, I'm fat I do not expect the government to give me money anytime soon to enable me to "fully lock down" while everyone else parties
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Reroot_Flyover and
If we reopen America before a vaccine, I fully expect that I WILL get the virus randomly from going to the grocery store And I will die, at the age of 37, or failing that I will have major "long COVID" health problems that shorten my lifespan by 20 years
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Reroot_Flyover and
And because you're fat people will say you did it to yourself and your recovery will be priortized less than a thin person's
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The demographic analysis based on age is ridiculously oversimplified and it's because they just don't want to talk about how for them age is the only morally excusable reason to be "unhealthy"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TheCaterjillar and
I don't do most things that will kill me one time out of 100. Somehow, a 99% survival rate for a disease is no big deal?
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Replying to @mssilverstein @arthur_affect and
Never mind how monstrous it is to just shrug and argue that anyone over 70 is expendable.
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