**whispers** middle management is also working class on a standard marxist analysis
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I mean, people divide the tiers differently. I'd be interested to know where you draw the lines :)
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well, what's the standard analysis? there are people who live by their labor, and people who live by their ownership of the means of production. middle management is the former.
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Replying to @perdricof @Gerkuman and
but this kind of broad-brush class analysis is unsatisfying precisely because it lumps together silicon valley managers and front-line retail workers, so people want finer-grained categories which is another way of saying the standard marxist analysis is bad, actually
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I'm honestly real fuckin pissed at Barbara Ehrenreich for coining the phrase "professional-managerial class" (PMC) and all the people who gave her all this praise for a deep insight that's necessary to map Marxist terminology onto a 21st-century world
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
As opposed to being an extremely obvious loophole that instantly sends any "materialist class analysis" tumbling down the slippery slope into being pure cultural identity politics, usually with a viciously reactionary bent
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
Yeah... Like, if there's anything to it, it's probably best focused on doctors and lawyers, primarily, and maybe accountants, who may or may not be independent, in partnerships, or employees, but who don't really fit in capital or labor.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @arthur_affect and
As an attorney who is also an employee, it's not really clear if I am selling my labor, or if it's clearer to say that professional credentials are themselves capital.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @arthur_affect and
The other thing, though, is that this class would almost certainly include plumbers, electricians, and other high-skill, high-pay jobs that have a working-class whiff to them because of how you dress for work.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @perdricof and
Yes The truly offensive thing about this discourse isn't even that they're saying a barista at Starbucks or a programmer at a tech company or a middle-school teacher *isn't* working class It's that they say some fuckface "small business owner" with a shiny new pickup *is*
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Very few of the Trump supporters they interview in diners are actually "working class" by any analysis that even tries to follow the actual definition of "working class" They're all petit bourgeoisie of one kind or another
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
Farmers (as in people who actually own farms) are not working-class Contractors (as in people who take the contract and then hire laborers to complete it) are not working-class "Small businessmen" are not working-class They are all exploiting other people's labor
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@SarahTaber_bww has a lot of great very cranky threads about how the image of the "self-sufficient family farm" is an absurd myth, and even if it weren't a myth, exploiting your own children's labor isn't actually any less exploitative than exploiting someone else's)0 replies 4 retweets 45 likes - Show replies
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