I think you might be referring to the managerial class
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Replying to @isthistinder @arthur_affect
Frontline managers can still be working class. It's middle-management up that starts to be removed from the pressures of dealing with an unbearable customer base
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**whispers** middle management is also working class on a standard marxist analysis
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I mean, people divide the tiers differently. I'd be interested to know where you draw the lines :)
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well, what's the standard analysis? there are people who live by their labor, and people who live by their ownership of the means of production. middle management is the former.
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Replying to @perdricof @Gerkuman and
but this kind of broad-brush class analysis is unsatisfying precisely because it lumps together silicon valley managers and front-line retail workers, so people want finer-grained categories which is another way of saying the standard marxist analysis is bad, actually
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I'm honestly real fuckin pissed at Barbara Ehrenreich for coining the phrase "professional-managerial class" (PMC) and all the people who gave her all this praise for a deep insight that's necessary to map Marxist terminology onto a 21st-century world
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
As opposed to being an extremely obvious loophole that instantly sends any "materialist class analysis" tumbling down the slippery slope into being pure cultural identity politics, usually with a viciously reactionary bent
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
*Any* analysis that looks at someone whose income is less than 10% someone else's income and says the poorer person is "less working-class" than the richer one because their job isn't a "real job" has lost the plot
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
This is an original sin of Marxism, with Marx allowing the concept of the "lumpenproletariat", a materialist gloss on the Christian idea of "undeserving poor" Poor people whom the revolution may someday help but who can't be part of it because they don't have "real jobs"
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At the time Marx only targeted the jobs that were most universally stigmatized as not "real" -- beggars, burglars, con artists, prostitutes The modern construction of the "PMC" lets you basically expand this category at will
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
It's interesting because most of the time, people who say retail workers aren't really laborers will want to say my job (teaching) counts as labor, although neither of us are producers. It's about value vs scorn.
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