I've seen lefty podcast types argue that retail workers aren't the *real* working class because those aren't the *real* jobs that keep the country running, they're "divorced from the country's productive base" Using a lot of big words to circle back around to Fox News ideologyhttps://twitter.com/tonyhell/status/1324806952300367872 …
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At the time Marx only targeted the jobs that were most universally stigmatized as not "real" -- beggars, burglars, con artists, prostitutes The modern construction of the "PMC" lets you basically expand this category at will
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It's interesting because most of the time, people who say retail workers aren't really laborers will want to say my job (teaching) counts as labor, although neither of us are producers. It's about value vs scorn.
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Wait, by allow do you mean it was his idea, or that Engels added it?
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They both used it
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Thank you for such a blatant display, of not understanding anything about Marx
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Have you read Arthur's posts? He's pretty leftist. One doesn't suddenly lose their leftist card for saying that Marx wasn't 100% right about everything. XD
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Yeah, and most modern Marxist analysis doesn't really accept the lumpenproletariat as a thing.
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I mean as a disabled person I'd prefer an analysis that doesn't devalue people who don't or can't work as much as others, yeah
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