I don't watch supernatural at all but I know enough via osmosis that I can pretty confidently say they've been queerbaiting for a phenomenal amount of time and I think the series is ending now?
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Replying to @elizabethdanger @BootlegGirl
As far as I'm aware, though, this is 'real death' for that character.
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Replying to @elizabethdanger @BootlegGirl
Yeah, after 15 years of being told that Gay shit will happen PROBABLY, EVENTUALLY, seeing it happen and then immediately having one of the characters go to Hell is like giving a starving man a sandwich and then revealing that it's poisoned as he's eating it.
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I cannot stress enough, Queer Supernatural fans have been waiting FIFTEEN YEARS to have this queerbaiting go anywhere and then they do... THIS
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Replying to @VapourSnake @elizabethdanger
Yeah, I'm not denying at all that that's sh*tty, I just don't love the fact that this is going to dredge up the whole BYG discourse just in time for next years TLoU season (which will almost certainly cover Riley's death)
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Classic BYG is really about more than just the fact that a gay character dies, just like "Women in Refrigerators" doesn't just mean that a secondary female character dies
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
It's not just that he's gay and that he dies, it's that he reveals that he is gay *right before he dies*, and that he dies *because of this revelation* And that he explicitly describes his confession of love as a tragic secret he had to keep until he was ready to die
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
At least in terms of Castiel's situation they directly made it into an equation Being gay = suffering, coming out = death
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It really feels like they just wrote a hetero romance-martyrdom story and then thought that no nuance was needed to make it about two men tbh. Very early 2000's.
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Yeah but see the thing is this is in fact a classic gay trope, even if obviously it's also a het trope This is literally the original meaning of "Bury Your Gays", it greatly predates the idea of having an actual token gay guy in the cast who gets killed off
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In the Hays Code era you literally had to do this to get away with a gay-coded romance - you had to kill off one of the characters to reassure the censor nothing indecent could come of it The extremely close same-sex bosom friend dies so the hero can go on to live a het life
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Replying to @arthur_affect @elizabethdanger and
Lord of the Rings is a straight up example, Frodo reveals his wound will never heal and he has to leave Middle-Earth to sail into the West with the Elves, so Sam can marry Rosie and become the town patriarch
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
TBF Tolkien didn't *intend* for it to be read as explicitly romantic - he was describing a particular form of deep male intimacy, and I think rejected it as an explicit romantic attachment. However! He explicitly compares Sam vs Shelob for Frodo to an animal defending its mate.
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