Did they fix it, or just like... Acknowledge and keep doing it?
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I haven't seen any of the episodes before the pandemic forced a pause, and I'll probably write an addendum to that thread when I've done so (nah, on second thought, that can go on my Patreon) but the last two seasons or so made excellent use of the unique position the show was in
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @CuddlePotato and
The episodes I saw elevated the artistic success of the work by taking the story outside the diegetic conceit of the genre and recontextualizing it as a metanarrative about the nature of the medium and the idea of a storyteller as a kind of petty autocrat abusing the innocent
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Because the malevolent God of the SPN universe was coded with the tropes of a pulp fiction writer, the show kind of had a mea culpa about the misogyny and general pigheadedness of past seasons Literally explaining it away diegetically as the sloppiness of an arrogant creator
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tl;dr, the last season of Supernatural is the creative labor of people who KNOW it has been dragging on for way, way too long, KNOW it has rightfully obtained a reputation for being mass-market pop fiction schlock, and KNOW this is very unfortunate And this, somehow, saves it
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Well dang maybe I should start watching Supernatural* *I should not, but I love that kind of meta shit
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It's honestly some of the best meta shit I have ever seen (from a show that had not always been so deft at it), and frankly it's the kind of thing you could only use in something with a such a history of poor writing, a runtime so long, a fandom so large, a background so storied
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Somehow the idea of Chuck, who's a goofy comic relief character at first and presented as this fundamentally weak and shallow person, being God himself really works
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That's the whole fucking problem with the world they live in God was always weak, that's his nature -- he can't commit to any one thing, he's always fucking waffling and dithering and looking for a sneaky way out The world, in all its glorious complexity, is a paradox
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
The world is what it is because he couldn't pick one thing and stick to it, because he constantly tried to make everything be two things at once, because he kept trying to force things to act against their nature Making mess after mess after mess, the human soul being the worst
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That's what's so compelling about the very worst hack writers, after all They bite off more they can chew They try to do justice to big ideas and fail horribly and by so doing they make something immortal because it's fundamentally broken and cries out to be fixed
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
There's a great moment in the final season when Fortuna, one of the last surviving pagan deities, initially scoffs when Sam and Dean say they've met the true Creator, and then when Dean goes "Yeah, he's this squirrelly little creep" Fortuna instantly believes him
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
(Even though that was obviously long before the white American dude Chuck Shurley existed Before he tried incarnating himself, God made the pagan gods to be the actual deities he couldn't be, to live up to what mortals expected from a creator)
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