I still stand by everything I said, it's just that eventually the showrunners just... started agreeing with me Which I wasn't prepared for, and has left me emotionally anchorless
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Did they fix it, or just like... Acknowledge and keep doing it?
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I haven't seen any of the episodes before the pandemic forced a pause, and I'll probably write an addendum to that thread when I've done so (nah, on second thought, that can go on my Patreon) but the last two seasons or so made excellent use of the unique position the show was in
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @CuddlePotato and
The episodes I saw elevated the artistic success of the work by taking the story outside the diegetic conceit of the genre and recontextualizing it as a metanarrative about the nature of the medium and the idea of a storyteller as a kind of petty autocrat abusing the innocent
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @CuddlePotato and
Because the malevolent God of the SPN universe was coded with the tropes of a pulp fiction writer, the show kind of had a mea culpa about the misogyny and general pigheadedness of past seasons Literally explaining it away diegetically as the sloppiness of an arrogant creator
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Yeah if you quit Supernatural after S5 like many people did: 1) It's become unambiguous canon that the hack writer Chuck Shurley who writes "prophetic" Supernatural books in-universe and the actual God who created the actual Supernatural universe are one and the same
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
2) This turns out to be a very bad thing Writers often claim to be benevolent deities who love their characters like their own children and wish them all the best in the world But ultimately they're just in it for catharsis and they'll slaughter billions for a good story
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
I like the meta idea that one of the ways God is a huge irresponsible asshole is he inserts himself as a character in his own story so he gets to have his cake and eat it too Experience it from a human perspective and pretend all the tragedy hurts him as much as it hurts you
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
A view of God that does, after all, have a pedigree (Rob Benedict, who plays Chuck, does in fact look a lot like classic white Jesus and his slobby fratboy persona as Chuck is very similar to that 2000s fratboy joke about Stoner Jesus)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Hell it's even literally the debate about Jesus between Christianity and Islam Is he a Prophet of God or is he actually God himself Because that's God's ego coming through again -- he can't ever just be one thing and stick to it
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He won't honestly show his face to his children as God, but he won't honestly live the life of a man with no power either He splits the difference and presents himself as a prophet, always relaying messages from God about the way things have gotta be
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
But as good ol' friendly Chuck he's just the messenger, none of it was his idea, you can't *blame* him for the terrible things he tells you are coming down the pike
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