See I'm still hung up on why THIS instance of a character being sent to hell is supposed to stick, narratively, when literally every season finale the show has ever had that I am aware of has that happen to someone and then next season they just kinda come back.
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Replying to @SecretGamerGrrl @arthur_affect
Emphabet, Multiple Persona-lites Retweeted Vapor Weyve
Well there's no next season this time. Also apparently it happens to lots of women and people of color, according to this thread, so having it happen to The Gay seems fittinghttps://twitter.com/Nymphomachy/status/1106343533114462208?s=19 …
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(I have not watched it in seven years) also I think this is an extra bad hell? It's not normal hell, it's The Empty. Like maybe he comes back if they kill it at the end, but it's super duper hell you don't get to come back from, from what I understand after reading one article
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Replying to @CuddlePotato @SecretGamerGrrl
The Empty isn't Hell Hell is a place God intentionally created to catch evil souls and keep them locked up without destroying them (because God can't bear to throw anything away) The Empty is where things go that really are truly destroyed
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The problem is that in Supernatural metaphysics, really truly destroying things is a new concept and one that doesn't actually work The Empty used to only exist in potentia, back when God and the Darkness were eternal and unchanging
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The world of conflict and death God created allowed for the possibility for the first time of things that first are and then, later, are not But are never *completely* not because existence still calls to them, implicitly, like a puzzle with a missing piece
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The sapient being known as the Empty experiences its own existence as having been perfect peace and dreamless sleep, until the actions of beings in creation - especially the Winchesters - started giving it form and identity in negative space
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It experiences its existence as the torment of things that are not seeking to be again, which is inherently contradictory and gives it a headache Its agenda is to stop all beings that exist, especially the Winchesters, from destroying more things and filling it up more
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Anyway, the Empty literally isn't Hell as in beings in the Empty normally have no conscious existence at all, they literally don't exist and are only "memories" the Empty has of what they were like when they did
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What happened with Castiel was that Jack (a Nephilim, basically an Antichrist -- Lucifer's child with a human woman, who by combining angelic grace and mortal free will has the potential to recreate the power of God himself) actively tried to bring Castiel back after destruction
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Normally, only God can actually recreate what has been truly destroyed (and God's power to violate the Empty this way is why it deeply resents him) Jack couldn't quite bring Castiel back, but he could "wake up" the concept of Castiel within the Empty
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Which the Empty really hates, because more sapience and more awareness inside of it is exactly what it doesn't want It began forming more and more of a consciousness as a negative-space reaction to Castiel's consciousness and came to hate him for this fact
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So it violated its own nature and spat him out, but exacted a terrible price from him in the process -- it sent him back still "empty", devoid of joy, with his existence dependent on being not-quite-the-full-Castiel
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