So every kid we burned alive at Dresden had it coming? What about Hiroshima? Did those kids deserve to watch their skins slough off after the A-bomb, I mean assuming they’d once waved a flag in a parade or something? Justifying the military murder of civilians is disgusting.
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Replying to @AndrewJensen2 @arthur_affect and
No, which is why i said "over the age of majority". Do you understand what that means? (I certainly don't think the bombing of Hiroshima was acceptable. Dresden, i'm a lot more ambivalent about.)
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Replying to @iridienne @AndrewJensen2 and
The big difference between Dresden and Hiroshima is that Imperial Japan's worst atrocities were carried out on foreign soil whereas Dachau was right in the heart of Germany, a suburb of Munich
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Replying to @arthur_affect @iridienne and
Oh yeah the postwar claims of German adult civilians that they had no idea the Holocaust was going on just up the road from them did ring pretty hollow, certainly. Does that justify burning them and their children alive?
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Replying to @AndrewJensen2 @iridienne and
Dresden wasn't a judicial punishment, it was an act of war intended to disrupt the German war machine and break the morale of the populace in order to hasten surrender On those utilitarian grounds, it was justified
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AndrewJensen2 and
Slaughtering Jews, in Hitler's view, was necessary to winning the war. I think that view was wrong for the same reason I think slaughtering German civilians was wrong. Civilians are not legitimate military targets in themselves.
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Replying to @jlippincott_ @arthur_affect and
Buddy, you can debate about the humanity or effectiveness of firebombing industrial centers, you can argue if it's feasible to spare civilians when a nation is in state of total war but, they aimed at neutralizing German ability to continue the war, Hitler wanted extermination.
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Replying to @Dominic11B4 @jlippincott_ and
Yeah unless someone argues that it would be a positive good to render a region Deutschenfrei for its own sake this is an absurd false equivalence, and a deeply odious one Dresden is not the fucking "German Holocaust" and saying it is verges on Holocaust denial
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jlippincott_ and
It is Holocaust denial. St*net*ss made a comic literally doing just this. Mentions Dresden by name.
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Replying to @RiffChick @arthur_affect and
How is condemning mass murder a denial of other mass murder? If some mass murder is okay then that seems to me to open the door to mass murder. This isn't just about Dresden. It's about Hamburg, Berlin, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Tokyo, and Osaka.
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Right, so we should've just left it at the one mass murder and let it lie You're transparent
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jlippincott_ and
Not to mention that it wasn't actually, like, one-sided? Dresden was bombed in 1945. Coventry and London were constantly bombed between 1940 and 1941. The Nazis gave up because it didn't seem to have a discernable effect on the war effort.
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Replying to @Zendervai @arthur_affect and
When one side of a war does something, it kind of signals to the other that that specific tactic is fair game. So the criticism should be aimed at the people who bombed cities and civilians *first*, and to no discernable impact, that is, the Nazis.
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