The intentional dismemberment of the Austro-Hungarian empire was a huge problem. The 1920s was a time of enormous chaos in the East. It isn't surprising that people who lived in this world retreated back into ethnic identity.
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Replying to @jlippincott_ @TrueMetis and
It doesn't have to be surprising to have deserved consequences
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TrueMetis and
So voting for the wrong party is grounds for being removed from your home? Do I read you rightly? I'm just curious, does this apply in our own time? Would you support doing the same thing to Trump voters, for instance?
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Replying to @jlippincott_ @TrueMetis and
The shooting war hasn't started yet but in our last civil war, much future harm could've been avoided had former Confederates been disenfranchised and expropriated, yes
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TrueMetis and
That's what a war is Losing a war has to have consequences Otherwise, you didn't actually win the war, and that means, in fact, that the war didn't actually end
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TrueMetis and
This argument, prior to 1918 and really 1945 would have been considered unconscionable. Peace almost always came with amnesty in order to ensure that you actually got peace! This moderate view makes war less savage.
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Replying to @jlippincott_ @TrueMetis and
This is nonsense By the standards of any civil war, either ancient or modern, the end of the American Civil War was ABSURDLY lenient to the Confederates At the very least, it was normal to expect the actual leaders of a rebel government to be hanged for treason
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TrueMetis and
Lincoln argued for "charity for all," yes. Hundreds of thousands had died. Americans wanted to go back to being one people. The lust for vengeance just wasn't there on a mass scale.
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Replying to @amanofnoaccount @jlippincott_ and
Also, “Americans wanted to go back to being one people” is interesting phrasing when the war itself was because there was a distinct group of Americans who were not accepted as a part of the people. And you exclude them even when talking about the post-war!
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Replying to @sophisticaden @arthur_affect and
Slaves were liberated, given citizenship (by the 14th amendment), and given voting rights. No, this did not solve all of the nation's problems. But it was a step toward unity. And the Confederacy ceased to exist. That is what winning looks like. It wasn't perfect. Nothing is
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Pfft Oh my God Do I have to sit down and walk you through the history of Redemption If Black people had "voting rights" in the South after the 15th Amendment then what was Martin Luther King so mad about in the 60s
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jlippincott_ and
The Fifteenth Amendment was a dead letter almost as soon as it was enacted. This is not a particularly controversial understanding.
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