Potsdam lead to one of the biggest ethnic cleansings in history. Remember, we're talking about women and children here.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944–1950) …
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Replying to @jlippincott_ @JGavinSanders
If you don't want your own civilian populations bombed you shouldn't massacre civilians within your own territory and if you don't want to be expelled from a region you shouldn't try to seize it by conquest Play silly games win silly prizes
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Replying to @arthur_affect @JGavinSanders
One war crime doesn't justify another. Not to mention that strategic bombing doesn't even work. It is a phenomenal waste of resources. Ethnic Germans, along with many other minorities, had spent centuries in the East before being removed at gunpoint.
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Replying to @jlippincott_ @JGavinSanders
Because after those centuries, when Hitler started pushing an ethnonationalist line of using minority German populations as a pretext for conquest those populations went right along with it
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“There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people.” -Howard Zinn That includes whatever flag you’re flying here.
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Replying to @AndrewJensen2 @arthur_affect and
Arthur's whole point is that at a certain point everyone over the age of majority, at the very least, loses the pretense of "innocence". The whole idea that women aren't ALSO upholders of fascism or other violent regimes is ridiculous and misogynist, tbh.
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Replying to @iridienne @arthur_affect and
So every kid we burned alive at Dresden had it coming? What about Hiroshima? Did those kids deserve to watch their skins slough off after the A-bomb, I mean assuming they’d once waved a flag in a parade or something? Justifying the military murder of civilians is disgusting.
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Replying to @AndrewJensen2 @arthur_affect and
No, which is why i said "over the age of majority". Do you understand what that means? (I certainly don't think the bombing of Hiroshima was acceptable. Dresden, i'm a lot more ambivalent about.)
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Replying to @iridienne @AndrewJensen2 and
The big difference between Dresden and Hiroshima is that Imperial Japan's worst atrocities were carried out on foreign soil whereas Dachau was right in the heart of Germany, a suburb of Munich
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Replying to @arthur_affect @iridienne and
Oh yeah the postwar claims of German adult civilians that they had no idea the Holocaust was going on just up the road from them did ring pretty hollow, certainly. Does that justify burning them and their children alive?
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Dresden wasn't a judicial punishment, it was an act of war intended to disrupt the German war machine and break the morale of the populace in order to hasten surrender On those utilitarian grounds, it was justified
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AndrewJensen2 and
I do not believe it would've been just for a victorious Allied occupation government to sentence the whole population of Dresden to have a bomb dropped on them, but that's obviously not what actually happened and saying it is is dishonest
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