In practice, in the real world, this generally results in a third option (you will notice most of my personal-experience examples fall under “then avoid me responsibly, coward” and/or “that’s not how people having substance use disorders works”),
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Replying to @chrysopoetics @mssilverstein and
because the people alleging conflicts of interest based on harm are wrong about how the world fundamentally functions as a system of systems that even exists
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But if someone tries to make me responsible for “your very existence means my life is on the line”, I can’t skip acquiring the backstop that is “I hear that. Iff so, die expediently” as an option before arriving/in order to arrive at “That’s not even true”, it’s not what I do.
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Yes I am royally fucking sick of the people who *do* "belong", who matter, who sit in the center shooting bullets outward at the margins, saying "Prove to me you're not an existential threat to me, that we can coexist" Why don't YOU prove to ME that we can coexist
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Sick of centuries of scraping and begging and cajoling and persuading saying "No, my existence is of benefit to you, master, it's rational for you to let me in, killing me will only harm yourself" How about getting some actual fucking power and being the one holding the gun
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My bitterness is that white straight Christians have NEVER had to persuade anyone else to let them live, to let them stay on the boat, because they can make themselves useful They're always the customers, never the employees They walk through life knowing they matter
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
I mean I know this is the part where Infinite Possible Modifiers but I’m contractually obligated to note that (aside from “can trans people be straight” &c.) the “we can make ourselves useful” arguments are almost always founded in ableism so there’s still up to 25% of them SOL
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Read something in College 1.0 about how the unifying feature among first-generation civil rights movements outside the disability rights movement itself is appeals to “We may LOOK different from you but it’s not like we’re CRIPPLED or [r-slur] or something!!!” and went “…oh”
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The Mattachine Society's whole shtick was to try to construct, basically from whole cloth, a new "gay culture" (with a new name, "homophiles") that was assimilable into straight Christian middle-class society It never really got off the ground
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chrysopoetics and
The whole "post-Stonewall" movement was as much an explosion of impatience and frustration with those guys as it was the cops and gay-bashers themselves
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What we today call "Pride" was a wholesale rejection of that ethos, which is why it's so frustrating seeing people try to blatantly change the narrative around "Pride" to make it sponsor- and family-friendly
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chrysopoetics and
Yeah, though I think the paradox is this: They were wrong that by imitating dominant white/christian culture, they could get acceptance; it doesn't work like that. However, ONCE accepted, you have a lot of people in any group starting to imitate that.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @arthur_affect and
It's a fairly common immigrant story, and not entirely alien to a lot of queer life in the United States. There's still Pride, of course - nobody entirely forgets the old country - but if end up rich enough to send your kids to college, sometimes they go on to business school.
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