There's been a LOT of discussion about how adults casually violating kids -- "Now I know you're not a hugger, but still!" "Jimmy, don't be rude to Grandma, give her a hug and kiss!" -- primes them for freezing up and being unable to articulate consent in sexual situations later
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Replying to @arthur_affect @megawhelmed and
And apparently the anti-"enthusiastic consent" people refuse to believe this narrative and think by even bringing the word "consent" into being hugged and kissed by your cheek-pinching grandma we're perverting the innocence of childhood or whatever The disagreeement runs deep
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Replying to @arthur_affect @megawhelmed and
This is relevant to this discussion why? Who is arguing this here?
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Replying to @CarolT52973604 @megawhelmed and
If minors can't consent to sex, is there anything they can consent to? Can they consent to being touched, or hugged, or picked up off the ground?
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Replying to @Bird92Enormous @arthur_affect and
Not with adults. His entire point. You think 13 year olds aren't fucking? Why not teach them how to do it safely. Abstinence only just teaches them they have no experienced adults they can confide(because getting into trouble) in when they get into a preventable pickle
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Replying to @Bird92Enormous @ZeighaStarsmash and
I see that you've misapplied slippery slope to consent, without understanding that a common method that predators use on minors is misuse of the concept of obedience to authority. Consent is the concept that clarifies the limits of authority.
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Replying to @SophiaCharmed @Bird92Enormous and
A ton of the "safeguarding" narratives these folks use are the "outside predator" narrative -- they start with the baseline assumption that parents and family are "safe" and anyone who threatens that established authority is a potential danger
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Replying to @arthur_affect @SophiaCharmed and
The problem being that statistics show this is exactly backwards in terms of who's most likely to abuse a child, and this kind of social structure is exactly what allows abusers to get away with it long-term with impunity
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But I mean what would I know about it, I'm probably just biased because of that time my dad broke my arm
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