Are you stupid or pretending to be stupid? Children can't provide consent, no matter how enthusiastic they are about it.
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Replying to @megawhelmed @TheGnPTiara and
One of the issues here is that "consent" applies to *all* forms of physical boundaries, not just sex Part of "enthusiastic consent" is teaching kids that it's wrong to touch another person at all without their consent, even "innocent" kissing or hugging or play-fighting
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Replying to @arthur_affect @megawhelmed and
Certain adults seem to react very negatively to this Not in the direction that would make sense -- "Kids can't consent" and therefore kids can't touch anyone or be touched ever But that "hugging is harmless" and therefore nonconsensual hugs are just fine
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Replying to @arthur_affect @megawhelmed and
There's been a LOT of discussion about how adults casually violating kids -- "Now I know you're not a hugger, but still!" "Jimmy, don't be rude to Grandma, give her a hug and kiss!" -- primes them for freezing up and being unable to articulate consent in sexual situations later
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Replying to @arthur_affect @megawhelmed and
And apparently the anti-"enthusiastic consent" people refuse to believe this narrative and think by even bringing the word "consent" into being hugged and kissed by your cheek-pinching grandma we're perverting the innocence of childhood or whatever The disagreeement runs deep
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Replying to @arthur_affect @megawhelmed and
This is relevant to this discussion why? Who is arguing this here?
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Replying to @CarolT52973604 @megawhelmed and
If minors can't consent to sex, is there anything they can consent to? Can they consent to being touched, or hugged, or picked up off the ground?
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Replying to @Bird92Enormous @arthur_affect and
Not with adults. His entire point. You think 13 year olds aren't fucking? Why not teach them how to do it safely. Abstinence only just teaches them they have no experienced adults they can confide(because getting into trouble) in when they get into a preventable pickle
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Okay so how do you deal with minors who do have sex? Because they do it, a lot, including at my very "safeguarding"-focused Christian high school that told us VERY sternly that we MUST NOT do it or risk staining our souls and destroying our capacity to love
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