She invades their territory first though, they kept their promise not to come back to Jackson
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They came to Jackson -in the first place-. “Letting her live” and “not coming back and killing more people” are not points in their favor.
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Yeah I'm just saying, from their POV their future violence against Ellie was all self-defense
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Sure, but like I said earlier: everyone thinks they’re justified from their own POV. Before she even has the chance to do anything to them, they’re gonna torture and murder her, so, yknow. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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I mean a lot of it is Owen's fault. "We're gonna traumatize this girl in a morally abhorrent quest for vengeance, but *We're better* than killing her too. This surely will not come back to bite us in the ass."
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If you start an elective war, and it was definitely cause for a war, what happens is significantly on you.
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Like there's really no evidence Abby feels any guilt or even hesitation, something Ellie very much does. She got what she wanted, she is pleased with it. If nothing else that's a sign of where the scales lie. If we are talking abstract morality.
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Additional suffering is not additional moral license, it just makes the damage to the suffering party feel more uncomfortable.
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And hell I'll go there. Saving Lev does not put Abby in the moral clear. There's no inherent reason Lev *needs* to live or that his survival is a higher moral good than that of Ellie and her crew. He cast his lot with Abby, so be it, abstract morality wise.
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The game just knows Lev is a marginalized identity and therefore counts upon us, modern viewers, to see his survival as a higher moral requirement... But it's not. He isn't more inherently deserving of life than others in the cast for that.
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But that's the exact same logic by which Joel is a monster, for just deciding that one life is worth more than many other lives
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I think “gonna scoop out the brains of a non-consenting teenager” kind of overrides the trolley problem calculus here.
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