I mean this is exactly what I think Noah is talking about, this impulse to give credit to expertise and say if something improved in society it's because a bunch of smart people got together and planned it, which is much less common than people think
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yes! we think, "scientists figured out germ theory so people invented indoor plumbing," when in fact it's more like, "people long wished for better indoor plumbing because shit smells, and managed to get it at about the same time as germ theory developed"
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This is a weirdly anti science take from people on the left. “Poop smells” is less compelling a case for change than “we’re all gonna die of germs if we don’t get sanitation.”
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How is this anti-science? It’s a description of how things happened and tend to happen.
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Because it’s painting one of the marvels of modern discovery as a random happenstance.
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Civil engineers did not accidentally figure out how to plan city sewage systems.
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Omg. Did a physicist tell yeti to insulate its cups or do we just know about insulation because basic physics has permeated most people’s consciousness?
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Replying to @TWLadyGrey @TheWeaseKing and
Generally just knowing how insulation works from unconscious personal experience (like the SNL sketch, "Fucking blankets, how do they work?!") is usually brought up as the ultimate example of what ISN'T science
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If a child knowing that it's warmer under the blankets than without the blankets is "science" then literally everything humans do is science "And when everything is science... nothing will be" - Syndrome
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