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    1. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 9 Oct 2020

      just saw someone saying trust in science because life expectacy in middle ages was 35. life expectancy was not 35. infant mortality lowered expectancy a good bit (not that much!) but once you got past infancy people lived for spans we'd recognize today for the most part.

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    2. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 9 Oct 2020

      also the big thing that increased life expectancy wasn't really "science!", ie antibiotics and better medicine, but indoor plumbling

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    3. LadyGrey‏ @TWLadyGrey 9 Oct 2020
      Replying to @nberlat

      Isn't indoor plumbing science?

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    4. Ghost of Roy Fokker‏ @LaughingGod 9 Oct 2020
      Replying to @TWLadyGrey @nberlat

      I'd argue yes. Indoor plumbing is engineering, which is *applied* science. Have a problem, find a solution that works = science. Sometimes it's rigidly defined, sometimes very loosely.

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    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 9 Oct 2020
      Replying to @LaughingGod @TWLadyGrey @nberlat

      Okay the whole thing is the more broadly you define the word "science" the less you can say there was ever a culture that didn't have it or that there's any people in the world who actually "deny science"

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    6. LadyGrey‏ @TWLadyGrey 9 Oct 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @LaughingGod @nberlat

      I think we’ve lose the plot here. What is science is a topic we can discuss. Whether science as commonly thought of, aka people thought of a scientists solving scientific problems, is responsible for indoor plumbing is not a question that can be debated. Of course it is.

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 9 Oct 2020
      Replying to @TWLadyGrey @LaughingGod @nberlat

      No, not really A *lot* of people have defended the historical claim that "science" means the "scientific method" which developed in the "scientific revolution" at the beginning of the Enlightenment in the 17th century, with folks like Bacon and Newton

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    8. LadyGrey‏ @TWLadyGrey 9 Oct 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @LaughingGod @nberlat

      I feel like you’re being contrarian here for the sake of being contrarian. Nothing you’re saying contradicts my claim. We have indoor plumbing because we learned about germ theory & sanitation being important. We implemented it with engineering.

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 9 Oct 2020
      Replying to @TWLadyGrey @LaughingGod @nberlat

      No, we didn't, indoor plumbing as a concept predates germ theory by thousands of years, and was generally considered desirable for reasons not directly related to germs (getting away from unpleasant smells and making life more convenient)

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 9 Oct 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @TWLadyGrey and

      The widespread adoption of indoor plumbing was a consequence of economic changes happening through Europe at the time and happened *alongside* germ theory etc but not really *because* of it

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 9 Oct 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @TWLadyGrey and

          I mean this is exactly what I think Noah is talking about, this impulse to give credit to expertise and say if something improved in society it's because a bunch of smart people got together and planned it, which is much less common than people think

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        3. Noah Berlatsky‏Verified account @nberlat 9 Oct 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @TWLadyGrey @LaughingGod

          yes! we think, "scientists figured out germ theory so people invented indoor plumbing," when in fact it's more like, "people long wished for better indoor plumbing because shit smells, and managed to get it at about the same time as germ theory developed"

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        1. LadyGrey‏ @TWLadyGrey 9 Oct 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @LaughingGod @nberlat

          Economic changes brought people into cities. Crowded cities caused an accumulation of waste, which propelled advances in sanitation.

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        1. Schrodinger's Democracy  🇺🇸‏ @danemadsen 9 Oct 2020
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          Dr. John Snow, stopped an 1854 cholera epidemic in London due to contaminated water supplies, fighting false claims it was airborne, effected change using data and discovery of the source(s). GT was 1861 by Pasteur. Is that not science?

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