Also i swa what bombsfall said snd did, AFTER she had been yelling about him and his game, and tbh i don't think anyone on this hellsite is required to stay silent when they're being misrepresented and lied about. I think proportionality is important!
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I just think maybe cishet white dudes who don't leave trans women the hell alone should be judged for it.
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idk, at what point are people allowed to speak up when someone has been shouting falsehoods about them & their work for weeks?
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Nah NitW is bad and even though Ellie feels more strongly about it than I do her analysis is broadly correct
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The big sticking point that got everyone to say she was "lying" -- "She said Mae solves the town's problems by starting a union and that never happens!" -- was itself a misrepresentation
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Ellie was referring, hyperbolically, to Mae talking about her dad getting into organizing at his job in the epilogue, which while it does not "solve everything" is clearly presented as being a glimmer of hope It is the whole tone of the epilogue that she rightly objects to
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Ellie may have been guilty to some degree of hyperbole in her criticism but her own critics were FAR MORE GUILTY She did not in fact say "You're not allowed to portray small towns without showing them to be fundamentalist fascist hellscapes"
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She did say that she finds this whole genre of bittersweet encomia to "the forgotten places of rural America" an alienating and problematic genre, one whose aesthetics often go totally unquestioned by people primed to lap that sad Bruce Springsteen Youngstown shit up And I agree
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I mean, I love It's A Wonderful Life Growing up it was one of my favorite films, ever, and it still honestly is It's certainly a finer work of art that will last longer than Night in the Woods
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But when Noah Berlatsky throws down the gauntlet and says "This kind of thing is a gateway to fascism, it's a fundamentally conservative POV and tickles the nerve endings of all of America's worst conservative impulses"? Yeah, he's got a real huge fucking point
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I don't have to say bombsfall literally is a Proud Boy to say that for whatever reason they made a game that appeals very strongly to Proud Boy grievances and Proud Boy rhetoric while trying unconvincingly in its final-act dialogue to distance itself from the Proud Boys
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Any more than I think Lillian Hellman literally supported slavery and the Klan -- when, obviously, in her day-to-day politics she was an outspoken socialist who got investigated by HUAC etc -- to say that her plays have some really problematic unexamined Lost Cause shit in them
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