F*ck you James T. Kirk, on behalf of Spockhttps://twitter.com/perdricof/status/1314300452851326991 …
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
Uh. Reminder that Spock is technically half-human and therefore there is a certain degree of grossness to proclaiming that ONLY his Vulcan identity matters.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @BootlegGirl
This is also true but Ellie's point is also a good one and one that Meyer actually came around to acknowledging in Star Trek VI (aka the best Star Trek movie).
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Like there *definitely* is a trope in science fiction generally (and Star Trek in particular) of deciding the worth of a non-human individual is determined by how "human" they seem, rather than acknowledging their own unique value.
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Replying to @nivenus @loudpenitent
Yeah, it's insulting to Spock, someone who struggled with the barrier between human and Vulcan his whole life, to say his soul was "human" at his funeral. Especially when his last words were to uphold a Vulcan way of thinking
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @loudpenitent
To some extent, in old school science fiction they used the term "human" as meaning "sapient" whereas "Terran" meant homo sapiens (you see this in the Diane Duane novels for instance) but it's still anthropocentric if you really think about it. And canon Trek never did that.
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Replying to @nivenus @loudpenitent
I mean if Kirk meant it in that sense it was insulting in a different way. "of all the souls I've encountered in my travels, his was the most sapient"?
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my most generous read is more of a nationalistic type of thing, akin to saying at a foreign born soldiers funeral "he was the most american"
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Yeah how this comes off depends a lot on your POV and on the power dynamic between the identities involved I can imagine a US soldier saluting at the grave of a foreign soldier saying "He was more American than any of us" being inspiring or insulting depending on the situation
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