Saw on FB a discussion among evangelical Republicans that they're waiting to vote until Election Day because if Trump dies they're definitely voting for Pence but otherwise they're in a quandary I'm ok with this
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Replying to @arthur_affect
Do write ins for the replacement and votes for the dead person both get counted in that scenario or is only one method ‘correct’? Or is it a crapshoot based on what random officials/judges feel like doing
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Replying to @boltmeyer
If a candidate dies, becomes incapacitated or is otherwise officially no longer the nominee (like if they officially withdraw before the deadline, the way people were yelling at Aaron Coleman to) the party committee votes to select someone to replace them
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Replying to @arthur_affect @boltmeyer
In a presidential election, because it's actually an election for a slate of pledged electors under the banner of a given party rather than an actual direct vote for a candidate, there's no constitutional barriers to this The GOP can just say all Trump votes are now Pence votes
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Replying to @arthur_affect @boltmeyer
Can they though? Its not at all up to the states? If Trump dies Nov 1st & the Reps decide to replace him w/ Pence, are all the votes counted until then (could be a healthy amount) not going to ''Trump'', regardless? The constitution doesn't mention parties after all.
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Replying to @Arie_Ben_Ari @boltmeyer
The Constitution doesn't mention citizens voting for the President at all, and indeed we do not vote for the President We vote for slates of "pledged electors" in the Electoral College, and *they're* the ones who vote for the President
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It's kind of complicated, but basically the state government's relationship is with the parties -- it's the party that has to follow a certain set of rules to get their "ticket" on the ballot And there's this legally established precedent for all the complex stuff a ticket means
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But basically when you "cast a vote for Joe Biden as President" you don't actually do that It's been agreed upon by statute and case law etc. that what this legally means is you "cast a vote for a slate of electors pledged to the Democratic Party's nominee"
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Who is *currently* Joe Biden, and according to all these rules the parties agreed to has to be nominated by the party according to the primary election process, etc., and can't be changed except in emergencies But it's still ultimately the choice of the party, a private entity
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Actually 51 different entities, because the electors are pledged to the *state* party, not to the *national* party.
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Right but the national party exists for the purpose of nominating the presidential and vice-presidential candidates (and really no other defined purpose) and in order to be a part of the national party the state party has to agree to abide by the RNC/DNC's nomination AIUI anyway
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The state party is "obliged" by the rules of the national party, of which it is a member, to do so. But it can break that affiliation at *any* time. If it does so, it loses its affiliation going forward, but that has no effect with regard to the election that already happened.
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Replying to @AB9RF @arthur_affect and
Of course, if a state party breaks with the national party, its electors may choose to break with the state party. Which is a whole another kettle of very ugly fish.
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