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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Eric Rehmeyer‏ @boltmeyer 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect

      Do write ins for the replacement and votes for the dead person both get counted in that scenario or is only one method ‘correct’? Or is it a crapshoot based on what random officials/judges feel like doing

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @boltmeyer

      If a candidate dies, becomes incapacitated or is otherwise officially no longer the nominee (like if they officially withdraw before the deadline, the way people were yelling at Aaron Coleman to) the party committee votes to select someone to replace them

      2 replies 5 retweets 28 likes
    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @boltmeyer

      In a presidential election, because it's actually an election for a slate of pledged electors under the banner of a given party rather than an actual direct vote for a candidate, there's no constitutional barriers to this The GOP can just say all Trump votes are now Pence votes

      4 replies 5 retweets 30 likes
    4. Random832‏ @Random832 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @boltmeyer

      What exactly does it mean to be a pledged elector (AIUI different states have different degrees of enforcement, but it's not clear to me who can, except in the case of the nominee actually dying, release them from it)

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @Random832 @boltmeyer

      Yeah the definition of a pledged elector is you're a party operative -- officially an elected official of the party, you "run for election" on the actual ballot regular people get in November -- and you sign a contract to vote for who the party tells you to

      1 reply 2 retweets 12 likes
    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Random832 @boltmeyer

      The way the pledges are constructed there is no way to ever be "released from your pledge" and no circumstance under which the party tells you it's okay to just use your own judgment Both parties specifically tell you if the nominee dies they'll tell you who the new one is

      2 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
    7. Random832‏ @Random832 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @boltmeyer

      Er, whether it's a 'release' or a substitution, my question was *does the party have that authority*? Is the party, in fact, the er, counterparty to the pledge, rather than the state?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Random832‏ @Random832 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @Random832 @arthur_affect @boltmeyer

      [and in that case what happens to electors who insist on voting for Trump anyway?]

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @Random832 @boltmeyer

      Oh yeah that's a bigger and deeper question, about faithless electors generally, that hits right at the core of our constitutional order It's like asking what happens if the Queen decides to dismiss Parliament and say she's going to start ruling the country directly again

      2 replies 2 retweets 21 likes
    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Random832 @boltmeyer

      Officially, the Constitution itself says the electors have the absolute authority to pick the President, and the "pledges" don't exist in the Constitution at all What we're doing right now is this very awkward compromise where the states can say faithless votes are "illegal"

      1 reply 2 retweets 12 likes
      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 5 Oct 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @Random832 @boltmeyer

      But in a bunch of states they just say it's "illegal" without any named penalty, and in a bunch of other states it's "illegal" as in you have to pay a fine, and in some states it actually says you are "required" (by the state government) to change your vote

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 5 Oct 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Random832 @boltmeyer

          They just had a big court case about this, Chiafolo v. Washington, about faithless electors in the 2016 election Democratic electors who wanted to protest-vote against Hillary and for John Kasich or Colin Powell for some godforsaken reason

          1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 5 Oct 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Random832 @boltmeyer

          According to what I'm reading, they wanted to protest that the 12th Amendment of the Constitution implicitly grants electors the right to vote any way they want and charging a monetary fine for faithless voting is a violation of their constitutional privilege

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
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