Saw on FB a discussion among evangelical Republicans that they're waiting to vote until Election Day because if Trump dies they're definitely voting for Pence but otherwise they're in a quandary I'm ok with this
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Replying to @arthur_affect
Do write ins for the replacement and votes for the dead person both get counted in that scenario or is only one method ‘correct’? Or is it a crapshoot based on what random officials/judges feel like doing
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Replying to @boltmeyer
If a candidate dies, becomes incapacitated or is otherwise officially no longer the nominee (like if they officially withdraw before the deadline, the way people were yelling at Aaron Coleman to) the party committee votes to select someone to replace them
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Replying to @arthur_affect @boltmeyer
In a presidential election, because it's actually an election for a slate of pledged electors under the banner of a given party rather than an actual direct vote for a candidate, there's no constitutional barriers to this The GOP can just say all Trump votes are now Pence votes
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Replying to @arthur_affect @boltmeyer
What exactly does it mean to be a pledged elector (AIUI different states have different degrees of enforcement, but it's not clear to me who can, except in the case of the nominee actually dying, release them from it)
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Replying to @Random832 @boltmeyer
Yeah the definition of a pledged elector is you're a party operative -- officially an elected official of the party, you "run for election" on the actual ballot regular people get in November -- and you sign a contract to vote for who the party tells you to
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The way the pledges are constructed there is no way to ever be "released from your pledge" and no circumstance under which the party tells you it's okay to just use your own judgment Both parties specifically tell you if the nominee dies they'll tell you who the new one is
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In ye olden days when news traveled by the speed of horseback etc. there were occasions when faithless electors broke their pledge and justified it on the basis that the nominee had died It's ambiguous whether those votes were "legitimate" but it luckily didn't matter
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The big famous example (well, it *was* famous in the 19th century) was Horace Greeley, the Liberal Republican candidate, dying right after the election in November 1872, and the Lib Reps not managing to hold a meeting to discuss this before the electors met in December
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Because the Liberal Republicans were a new, "third" party that emerged after the Democrats basically collapsed during this election and a bunch of Republicans rebelled against the Grant Administration It's complicated, let's just say things were complicated that year
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But it didn't matter because he lost that election and Grant won an outright majority so there was nothing the electors could do to change the outcome anyway so they didn't bother to have the meeting If it did matter they probably would've
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