That's not really the point, though. The trappings of the Hunter are *gross* to me. They're purity culture, rooting out the Impure and the Other and the Corrupted. That is an inherently reactionary force.
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Replying to @loudpenitent
Yeah okay but Vampires are rapists, let's be real Your character personally may not be but that's the archetype you're playing one way or another, it's deliberately titillating because it's playing with the cultural fear of violation
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A: ok but that doesn't change my observetion about the overlap, if anything it intensifies it considerably further. B: that's certainly the tack WoD took with it... Which is incredibly gross since it turns into "once metaphorically violated your only moral choice is death."
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Which if we allow for vampires in the context of WoD to symbolize - let's just fucking say it - the sexual hedonism of non-cishet-vanilla spaces as viewed by conservatives... Fuck does it get ugly. "Your child got seduced/drawn into the Vampire Life by the not!Jews & must die."
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect
Imo the territory WoD (and Blade, and that whole 90s-00s genre of Urban Industrial Punk/Club vampires) enters with its vampires is gross and queephobic-slash-antisemitic to its core. Especially once you start viewing anyone other than the vamps as protagonists.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect
I mean hell personally I've always been shocked the primary monsters of WoD weren't things like werewolves, but WoD werewolves are just a mess (and as I understand it had some uncomfortable overlap with some vaguely fash-adjacent symbolism in oWoD?)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent
I mean look you kind of have to do something with that, the Nazis literally created a thing called Operation Werewolf
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I know I'm just saying it's bizarre that WoD seemed to take as a moral statement "you know who are the ultimate evil? It's not the Nazi murderfurries who wanna go anprim, it's the leather clad punks, misfits & weirdos who drink blood and corrupt the sexual morals of our kids."
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Replying to @loudpenitent
No, Hunters hate Werewolves too WoD overall may have treated Werewolves like "good guys" but Hunter, thankfully, did not
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Just like in the Tradition/Technocracy squabble Hunters side with neither, their relationship to the whole thing is "There should be no secret elite deciding how reality works at all"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent
And anyway in-universe half the Imbued who exist are members of the Mercy Creeds whose whole thing is trying to think of monsters as potentially also being victims - the Redeemer Creed straight up runs with the idea that vampirism is akin to an addiction or illness
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