I've mentioned many times that although I dislike the WoD in general I particularly think the Hunters can fuck off, bunch of xenophobic shitbags that they are.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect
Like let's just be blunt here: Hunter in the context of the WoD is enshrining hatred of the Other and the Impure, and y'know who that is in the real world.
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Replying to @loudpenitent
Well from a detached, objective perspective I don't think the Imbued are "good guys" at all, at least not uncomplicatedly (in canon they are in fact extremely fractious and divided about this very topic, you're expressing the POV of the Innocent Creed more or less)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent
But, I mean, I wouldn't take up arms to become an insurrectionist irl but I also wouldn't seduce people and drug them and suck their blood out to prolong my lifespan And yet I don't have a moral problem with playing a protagonist in Vampire, who essentially does just that
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Replying to @arthur_affect
That's not really the point, though. The trappings of the Hunter are *gross* to me. They're purity culture, rooting out the Impure and the Other and the Corrupted. That is an inherently reactionary force.
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Replying to @loudpenitent
Yeah okay but Vampires are rapists, let's be real Your character personally may not be but that's the archetype you're playing one way or another, it's deliberately titillating because it's playing with the cultural fear of violation
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Replying to @arthur_affect
A: ok but that doesn't change my observetion about the overlap, if anything it intensifies it considerably further. B: that's certainly the tack WoD took with it... Which is incredibly gross since it turns into "once metaphorically violated your only moral choice is death."
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect
Which if we allow for vampires in the context of WoD to symbolize - let's just fucking say it - the sexual hedonism of non-cishet-vanilla spaces as viewed by conservatives... Fuck does it get ugly. "Your child got seduced/drawn into the Vampire Life by the not!Jews & must die."
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect
Imo the territory WoD (and Blade, and that whole 90s-00s genre of Urban Industrial Punk/Club vampires) enters with its vampires is gross and queephobic-slash-antisemitic to its core. Especially once you start viewing anyone other than the vamps as protagonists.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect
I mean hell personally I've always been shocked the primary monsters of WoD weren't things like werewolves, but WoD werewolves are just a mess (and as I understand it had some uncomfortable overlap with some vaguely fash-adjacent symbolism in oWoD?)
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The Get of Fenris were literally Nazis yes
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent
I mean look you kind of have to do something with that, the Nazis literally created a thing called Operation Werewolf
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I know I'm just saying it's bizarre that WoD seemed to take as a moral statement "you know who are the ultimate evil? It's not the Nazi murderfurries who wanna go anprim, it's the leather clad punks, misfits & weirdos who drink blood and corrupt the sexual morals of our kids."
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