The movie gets as close as it can (while being edited by Air Force censors) to saying that Carol wishes she could've worked directly for Dr. Lawson without being in the Air Force at all
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
That's a gracious interpretation, not wrong but a very very gracious reading of it.
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Replying to @KirifudaRed @AlexJThomas and
I mean it's a line in the movie, it's how Maria describes Dr. Lawson "We always liked Dr. Lawson, she was the only one who would let us fly anything we wanted"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
Again, a very gracious interpretation of a single line as 'coming as close to wishing they could work for her as opposed to the airforce'.
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Replying to @KirifudaRed @AlexJThomas and
...Okay, I guess There's nothing positive said about the Air Force at any other point Like, it's text, working with Dr. Lawson was the only job in the Air Force that Maria and Carol enjoyed
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
"Nothing positive" does not equate to 'Only negatives' when as you've mentioned before the imagery evokes Top Gun specifically so folks aren't thinking about what the USAF was ACTYUALLY doing during the time. And it's irrelevant when it's free advertising for em.
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Replying to @KirifudaRed @AlexJThomas and
Okay You're telling me you think it's unacceptable for a movie to try to be "neutral" and not be openly critical of US military action when it involves the US military And since the US military demands that movies be "neutral" at worst, this makes all these movies unethical
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Replying to @arthur_affect @KirifudaRed and
That's fine I accept that that's a logical stance to take, maybe even one I should take but have not What I am resisting is the perception that this particular movie particularly needs to be criticized when people say they like it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @KirifudaRed and
The narrative that I'm perceiving in this thread is that MCU movies and other action movies are generally understood as problematic by critics but Captain Marvel gets singled out and protected because of shallow liberal feminism This seems like the exact opposite of the case
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Replying to @arthur_affect @KirifudaRed and
Like, the criticism is happening Right now Captain Marvel is the MCU movie you can *least* talk about without getting criticism over it It is one of the most disproportionately heavily criticized popular media on the Internet in 2019-20
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Fuck, I'll just say it, if I'd replied to the original discussion in @Nymphomachy's mentions "Hey are there any 'military-themed' superheroes who end up rejecting the military" by saying "Captain America counts!", I don't think this thread would have even started
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Replying to @arthur_affect @KirifudaRed and
I do not think (whatever he may claim now that I've brought it up) that
@AlexJThomas would have felt the need to start a whole-ass debate over me saying Winter Soldier and Civil War count as "anti-military" movies or Steve Rogers is an example of a "military hero losing faith"1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @KirifudaRed and
Those are considered normal fandom takes that people say all the time without this massive blowup Takes I agree with, even though I think those movies' anti-military message is *much weaker* than Captain Marvel's and Captain America is *still a much more pro-military character*
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