And honestly? I find the sheer defiant self-indulgence of the way the movie plays this trope INCREDIBLY cathartic It was AMAZING how good it felt to see Carol just cut off Yon-Rogg's monologue and walk away, to realize "Oh man she's literally Superman!"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
I mean I have a long-documented desire to see an *actual* Superman movie -- yes, with Superman still being a white guy -- that actually just plain does Superman And a deep resentment of Zack Snyder for thinking Superman needs to be subverted with doubts and darkness and so on
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
I got the same pure superhero joy from that scene in Captain Marvel that I did from watching The Tick on Amazon Prime with the Tick (a white guy) doing the "Little men! Little men!' speech So no, I do not think my attachment to this movie is pure feminist ally idpol etc
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
And no, it did not give me any impulse to join the Air Force Maybe it hit other people that way, I dunno, can't speak to that To me the mood of the movie was the exact opposite, it was a movie that says "Fuck it just tell your boss he's an ugly prick and quit your job"
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Replying to @AlexJThomas @arthur_affect and
Arthur's made it clear he doesn't care as long as he can fanboy sqeual over a white woman punching someone. As long as fans are getting cool moments or film buffs get to 'feel something' All criticism goes out the window. It's fanchud behavior dressed up as progressive politics.
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Replying to @KirifudaRed @AlexJThomas and
Yes I said that very plainly I watched the movie primarily as a movie and judged it based on my reaction to it I even said it wasn't even a feminist reaction and is a reaction I could've had to a male character Sorry to disappoint you
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
I mean, I'll live, it's just amazing to see you deflect or deny any criticsm from that perspective purely so you can do the very fanboy thing about ranting about how it made you feel in a conversation about it's use as a propganda tool.
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Replying to @KirifudaRed @arthur_affect and
It's why you went from arguing about how 'effective' it was by deflecting into how it made you feel and that you just want 'one pure thing'.
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Replying to @KirifudaRed @AlexJThomas and
Yes, because I have not drawn a moral line that any possible use of a movie as a recruiting tool means I can't enjoy the movie on a deontological level If I did I just couldn't watch most action movies I already don't particularly watch many of them, but I really liked this one
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If that makes me a shitty person, oh well It's not even close to the worst thing about me, I guess I'll have to live with it But I do continue to think there's special pleading going on here to argue that Captain Marvel is *especially bad* in that respect
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Replying to @arthur_affect @KirifudaRed and
Like this guy is out here saying that he thinks the whole MCU is pro-war propaganda but the Captain America films are in his view better than Captain Marvel when they are clearly worse
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Replying to @arthur_affect @KirifudaRed and
Or like, shit, saying The Phil Silvers Show was more anti-authoritarian than this movie -- because it's about officers being assholes who are always hassling you, I guess, and that's more anti-authority than a movie whose hero moment is *shooting* your commanding officer
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