An industrial-capitalist version of ritual and religion -- whether the ads ever really change anything is almost beside the point, just as the ancients never really did empirical studies if their prayers to the gods actually changed the likelihood of a good harvest
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
And that's kind of why I have this attitude about this whole discussion Like if you just fundamentally find it offensive there's pro-military imagery in Captain Marvel then fine, I won't argue with your right to reject it for that reason
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
But I'm just not interested in the conversation that "Okay, the Air Force sank resources into it, so as a work of art it's compromised and there's an obvious *real meaning* of the movie that's pro-military and everything else is bullshit" Believe that if you want I guess
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
I feel like your point here is very obvious and I don't understand the compulsion to paint you as a lib feminist MCU stan. Unless you think that's the only kind of person who would defend that movie.
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Replying to @uneek35 @Nymphomachy and
The thing is I've come to kind of hate the MCU at this point and I think Captain Marvel would be much better as a standalone movie -- all the MCU stuff harms it As pointed out, the business with Nick Fury's pager slightly undermines the ending just for the sake of continuity
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
I don't dislike the MCU yet since it reliably puts out movies above 3 stars. Though, I do think the continuity is starting to become very restricting.
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Replying to @uneek35 @arthur_affect and
Also, admittedly, Captain Marvel is in the bottom of my rankings, but it's the kind of underwhelming movie where I find the defenses of it more interesting than the criticisms.
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Replying to @uneek35 @Nymphomachy and
It's apparently a very polarizing movie! I just wish people wouldn't categorize the reason it's polarizing as "shallow feminism" vs "people who are smart enough to see past shallow tokenism"!
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Replying to @arthur_affect @uneek35 and
Lindsay Ellis disliked it a lot, but I don't think it's because she's opposed to "identity politics" or thinks representation issues in movies are bullshit!
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Replying to @arthur_affect @uneek35 and
And I've said -- a bunch of times -- that trying to introspect, I don't think I like Carol because she's a woman Trying to imagine a different version of this movie in my head, I think I'd even admit that if she were a guy I might have a stronger initial positive reaction
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Because, you know, I'm a guy and I tend to find guys in movies more immediately identifiable "Identity issues" *would* matter, but the important thing to me would be some signal that CM isn't a normative hero, that they're someone who's "not supposed to be there"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @uneek35 and
(Am I just someone who kneejerk hates on white guys in movies? Fine, maybe I am, but the white guys can handle it) But my point is the stuff that people legitimately have a problem with -- Carol's lack of struggle, the "narcissism" of the movie's POV -- is exactly what I like
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Replying to @arthur_affect @uneek35 and
Like, it's a Mary Sue movie It's *defiantly* a Mary Sue movie, the reason it sticks out so much is it shamelessly, brazenly, nakedly rubs the Sueness in your face It interrupts your critique and shoots you in the face with a blast of Mary Sue energy and arrogantly walks off
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