I think this is a tendentious argument and you know why it's tendentious -- I can be mad at a movie for being offensive because it subjectively offends me whether or not I have data that the movie harmed society
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
In fact I often am, because the movies that offend me are movies nobody saw
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
I am not saying that social criticism of movies is beyond the pale, or that we're not all speculating about this shit when we talk about a movie being racist or offensive or having a horrible moral message But I am against simplistic Truffaut's Maxim readings
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
Or at least if you want to apply them, apply them fairly and across the board The whole MCU is bad, period, Captain Marvel isn't particularly bad other than that it's successful (largely because it is good in its own specific ways while being bad in the ways they're all bad)
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Replying to @AlexJThomas @ashleylynch and
I think Captain Marvel is an unusually good movie compared both to other MCU movies and "action movies" as a genre overall And I'm not even saying I don't acknowledge the problematic recruiting-ad aspect of it, I just consider it unimportant in a relative sense
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
*All* movies made like this in the current business environment of Hollywood have that "recruiting ad" aspect to it and I am skeptical Captain Marvel was particularly effective as a recruiting ad simply because it had a high box office
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AlexJThomas and
I know the Air Force wanted it to be, and they ran a bunch of ads outside of the movie as part of a recruiting drive (that were probably more effective than the movie itself) But the movie's writers and directors made choices that worked against this goal
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I mean you know this kind of argument cuts both ways, right A movie can try to be "woke" and fail to be, sure A movie can also try to be a pro-military recruiting ad (or some people working on it can try to do that) and fail at that too
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Replying to @AlexJThomas @arthur_affect and
I would think the sum proof of the latter would be the immense amounts of time, resources, and personnel the armed forces have invested into the entertainment sector over the last 70 years, but maybe that's just me being too broad
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